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War drum being beat louder than ever

tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
esmith said:
How do you know North Korea isn't a threat to the U.S.? I'm assuming your getting your ideas from the @tytlyf book of knowdledge(?).
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How do I know? History. You think this is anything new with NK? Why are you so paranoid over some random country known for all talk and no walk? Stop being a hawk, stop trying to be the worlds police. We don't need more hawks and wars, remember, you voted against that.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
esmith said:
I'm not blaming the Democrats for starting those conflicts, I'm blaming the Obama administration for their inept bungling and unwillingness to see the problem and take actions to combat it. Although they did eventually see the errors of their ways and attempted to correct it with half measures.
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You mean "The Obama administration failed to clean up the mess left by the Republican majority in Washington DC during the Bush administration to my satisfaction. While simultaneously repairing the economic disaster also left by the Republican majority in Washington DC ".
Is that correct? If not, which part is wrong?
Tom
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
tytlyf said:
How do I know? History. You think this is anything new with NK? Why are you so paranoid over some random country known for all talk and no walk? Stop being a hawk, stop trying to be the worlds police. We don't need more hawks and wars, remember, you voted against that.
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That is what I thought. You have no data only your opinion. And you know what opinions are.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
columbus said:
You mean "The Obama administration failed to clean up the mess left by the Republican majority in Washington DC during the Bush administration to my satisfaction. While simultaneously repairing the economic disaster also left by the Republican majority in Washington DC ".
Is that correct? If not, which part is wrong?
Tom
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Yes, I blaming the Obama administration for not cleaning up the mess left by the previous administrations..
You seem to think (along with many others) that when the administration changes they are no longer responsible for what the previous administrations did in the name of the U.S.
The United States broke it and it is the responsibility of the United States to insure that they fix what they broke.
 
Flankerl

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
tytlyf said:
North Korea isn't a threat. Whoever tells you that is most likely going to be a republican. We don't have to do anything. And we shouldn't. Because NK isn't a threat to America. I'm seeing a lot of hawks here who claim to hate hawks.
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Again: What about South Korea and Japan?
You know, US allies. All well in range of North Korean nuclear weapons.

It is ridiculous to believe that a nuclear armed North Korea acts like a North Korea without Nukes.

Also they are developing ICBMs that will in time reach the USA. Also not a problem I presume.


tytlyf said:
How do I know? History. You think this is anything new with NK? Why are you so paranoid over some random country known for all talk and no walk?
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So for you a nuclear armed North Korea will always behave like a North Korea without nuclear weapons.

Not stupid at all.



esmith said:
Why did North Korea invade South Korea on June 25th 1950
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Where is my popcorn...
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
esmith said:
You say North Korea is not a threat, correct?
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This isn't what he said!

The world is full of threats. To the USA, North Korea is one. But a tiny one. It is a bigger threat to China. Millions of hungry people are living on China's border. They are the one's with the real problems should North Korea become the sort of failed state that the USA has created around the mid-east, such as Iraq and Libya and are on our way to creating in Syria and Afghanistan.

The moral to the story is "Don't break another country when you haven't fixed the previous disasters yet and don't appear able to do so "
Tom
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
esmith said:
You say North Korea is not a threat, correct?
Let me ask you a question then.
Why did North Korea invade South Korea on June 25th 1950
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NK is the JVteam just like ISIL. America's defenses are too strong to worry about ICBMs.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
North Korea may not be the threat they make out to be, but if not dealt with may in the near future become that threat, we need to do something right now.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
psychoslice said:
North Korea may not be the threat they make out to be, but if not dealt with may in the near future become that threat, we need to do something right now.
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We don't need to get involved with anything. It's not our problem. It's a waste of money, hawkish and could lead to other larger conflicts.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
psychoslice said:
So we continue letting them play games with their missiles ?.
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Yes, NK is harmless. You have to understand that the republicans are conrolled by the MIC. Lockheed, Boeing, Military equipment manufacturers, greedy corporations that rely on our tax dollars for their profits. War = booming business at profits at the expense of veterans and American lives.

Which is why this is typical for republican administrations. The president is being advised by people lobbied by these MIC corporations. These corporations, like others lobbying republicans (Big Oil, Big Pharma) are in it for the money. The reason they buy up the law makers in congress is to enhance their profits.

That's all there is to it. It's pretty obvious to me. Yes, it's true that RW media and the republicans in congress are using tax dollars to profit off of. Don't get me started about overpaying for everything. These people are crooks and greed filled organizations. In order to drain the swamp, you have to vote them out. Not keep voting for them because you'd prefer the swamp over a democrat.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
columbus said:
What are you suggesting?
A nuclear armed Communist version of ISIS?
That doesn't sound like an improvement over letting the Chinese deal with their own problems.
Tom
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I agree, let the Chinese deal with the problem, as long as the problem is dealt with, if the US is fired upon then they also can deal with the problem, this fat little man needs to be dealt with swiftly.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
psychoslice said:
I agree, let the Chinese deal with the problem, as long as the problem is dealt with, if the US is fired upon then they also can deal with the problem, this fat little man needs to be dealt with swiftly.
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I thought Iran was Trump's major problem? Last I heard, Iran was given more nukes by Obama. Israel needs to be protected!!! Why is Trump not talking about Iran and the Obama Iran Deal?
 
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