Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?

[Greatest I am]

Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?


Heaven, from what we can speculate, seems to be a system that some would call a tyranny as no one was allowed to question anything or ask for change in leadership or policies.


Was Satan and the third of angels who rejected tyranny wrong to demand equal rights, and if so, are all people who demand equal rights on earth also doing something satanic?


Is this why most religions are reluctant to give women and gays equality? Do Christians and Muslims think equality to be evil and satanic?


Do religious people think that their Gods frown on the notions of equality of all people and is that why believers deny women and gays equality?


Regards

DL

 

[Mycroft]

In an earthly context....

A man named Luke went to the banker Godfrey and said: 'Dear Mr. Godfrey, you have all the money in the world. Why don't you share it out with the rest of us?' Godfrey balked at this idea, and cast out Luke sending him to prison on a life sentence.

The question is, then, is requesting redistribution of the wealth unreasonable?

 

[Tumah]

Satan demanded equal rights in heaven...?

 

[Awoon]

Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?


Heaven, from what we can speculate, seems to be a system that some would call a tyranny as no one was allowed to question anything or ask for change in leadership or policies.


Was Satan and the third of angels who rejected tyranny wrong to demand equal rights, and if so, are all people who demand equal rights on earth also doing something satanic?


Is this why most religions are reluctant to give women and gays equality? Do Christians and Muslims think equality to be evil and satanic?





Do religious people think that their Gods frown on the notions of equality of all people and is that why believers deny women and gays equality?


Regards

DL

I look out to the sky at night and see lights called stars. Where is God and Satan located at out there?

 

[gsa]

Certainly not very democratic traditions, which is one of the reasons Islamists reject it as a form of shirk.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?


Heaven, from what we can speculate, seems to be a system that some would call a tyranny as no one was allowed to question anything or ask for change in leadership or policies.


Was Satan and the third of angels who rejected tyranny wrong to demand equal rights, and if so, are all people who demand equal rights on earth also doing something satanic?


Is this why most religions are reluctant to give women and gays equality? Do Christians and Muslims think equality to be evil and satanic?


Do religious people think that their Gods frown on the notions of equality of all people and is that why believers deny women and gays equality?


Regards

DL

I'm not aware of "rights" existing in any form, terms, or reality in any scripture. Where did Satin demand any rights, much less equal rights? Where in the OT or NT is there any reference rights? In my reading, biblical scripture is 100% anathema to rights. In fact, biblical scripture emphatically states that the best you can hope for is to be a slave to god.

 

[Vishvavajra]

What myth of Satan are we looking at, exactly? Is this from Milton?

 

[InChrist]

I don't see from reading the information in the scriptures that Satan, originally called Lucifer, was merely demanding equal rights. He was demanding to be equal to and usurp the place of God...the (as in singular) Creator of heaven and earth, an impossibility for a created being in the first place along with a completely deluded, rebellious attitude to adopt.

 

[Greatest I am]

In an earthly context....

A man named Luke went to the banker Godfrey and said: 'Dear Mr. Godfrey, you have all the money in the world. Why don't you share it out with the rest of us?' Godfrey balked at this idea, and cast out Luke sending him to prison on a life sentence.

The question is, then, is requesting redistribution of the wealth unreasonable?

Not to me. Have a preview of my next O.P.

Should politicians take a back seat to our oligarch owners?

9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact

Which party will provide the American and Canadian leadership and stop de-civilization of our countries with redistribution of wealth?

Who has the older and wiser philosophy and heart to reverse current de-humanizing trends?

If we are all to be owned by oligarchs, should we not make them debate publicly so that we can know their real philosophy instead of listening to their bought and paid for politicians?

Should we ask our owners to take center stage and move their political talking heads right off the stage?

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I hope you think it worthy.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Satan demanded equal rights in heaven...?

That is what I think. Yes.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I look out to the sky at night and see lights called stars. Where is God and Satan located at out there?

You are looking too far.


Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is

in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they

say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will

precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is

outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves]

will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you

will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living

Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty

and it is you who are that poverty."

If you cannot see God everywhere, then you won't find him anywhere.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Certainly not very democratic traditions, which is one of the reasons Islamists reject it as a form of shirk.

Hmmm. Yet Muslims are also idol worshipers just as Christians are.

You would likely see that (shirk) word differently than I do.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I'm not aware of "rights" existing in any form, terms, or reality in any scripture. Where did Satin demand any rights, much less equal rights? Where in the OT or NT is there any reference rights? In my reading, biblical scripture is 100% anathema to rights. In fact, biblical scripture emphatically states that the best you can hope for is to be a slave to god.

No argument.

Paul was quite clear. We are either slaves to sin or slaves to God.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

What myth of Satan are we looking at, exactly? Is this from Milton?

Just the bible. Although I will talk to any version of this myth.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I don't see from reading the information in the scriptures that Satan, originally called Lucifer, was merely demanding equal rights. He was demanding to be equal to and usurp the place of God...the (as in singular) Creator of heaven and earth, an impossibility for a created being in the first place along with a completely deluded, rebellious attitude to adopt.

So why did God create that attitude if he did not want it expressed.

After all, he did know what was to happen before it happened. Right?

Please explain that glitch.

Regards
DL

 

[gsa]

Hmmm. Yet Muslims are also idol worshipers just as Christians are.

You would likely see that (shirk) word differently than I do.

Regards
DL

I was talking about Islamists. Many of them reject democracy as shirk. Here is one Salafi interpretation:

Democracy is a man-made system, meaning rule by the people for the people. Thus it is contrary to Islam, because rule is for Allaah, the Most High, the Almighty, and it is not permissible to give legislative rights to any human being, no matter who he is.

It says in Mawsoo’at al-Adyaan wa’l-Madhaahib al-Mu’aasirah (2/1066, 1067):

Undoubtedly the democratic system is one of the modern forms of shirk, in terms of obedience and following, or legislation, as it denies the sovereignty of the Creator and His absolute right to issue laws, and ascribes that right to human beings. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 

[Mycroft]

Not to me. Have a preview of my next O.P.



Which party will provide the American and Canadian leadership and stop de-civilization of our countries with redistribution of wealth?

Who cares? I'm not American. haha.

 

[Greatest I am]

I was talking about Islamists. Many of them reject democracy as shirk. Here is one Salafi interpretation:

Democracy is a man-made system, meaning rule by the people for the people. Thus it is contrary to Islam, because rule is for Allaah, the Most High, the Almighty, and it is not permissible to give legislative rights to any human being, no matter who he is.

It says in Mawsoo’at al-Adyaan wa’l-Madhaahib al-Mu’aasirah (2/1066, 1067):

Undoubtedly the democratic system is one of the modern forms of shirk, in terms of obedience and following, or legislation, as it denies the sovereignty of the Creator and His absolute right to issue laws, and ascribes that right to human beings. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

If Allaah bothered to show up to rule then we might accept him but all we have are Muslim men speaking for Allaah so one wonders just what kind of tyranny Allaah will have when men do all of his talking.

Your con sounds just as far fetched as Christianity's claims.

How is it that Muslims read the Abrahamic myths as real when even the Jews do not?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Who cares? I'm not American. haha.

You are still owned haha ha.

It seems that God is not the only a hole who likes slaves.

Regards
DL

 

[Vishvavajra]

Just the bible. Although I will talk to any version of this myth.

Regards
DL

Where in the Bible is this found?