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Was the big bang creation or evolution?

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Yes I believe so. Not really anything "newly" created. So the universe just continues using the stuff from the big bang.
It's growing but I don't think its changing.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Ok point taken but evolution is change as opposed to something newly created.

We don't know is the correct answer in that context.

But again it does not apply because the universe could have evolved into state where it was created.

So the question still does not apply.


If a black hole exploded, it was created, if a black hole exploded the black hole evolved into a universe


Please try again.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
We don't know is the correct answer in that context.

But again it does not apply because the universe could have evolved into state where it was created.

So the question still does not apply.


If a black hole exploded, it was created, if a black hole exploded the black hole evolved into a universe


Please try again.
Something from nothing is a creation, just something exploding doesnt make it a creation event.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Then you answered your own question.

I am not sure if the big bang was something from nothing. A creationist of course would say big bang was a creation event. The big bang doesnt answer where all this stuff we are using comes from. Yet it evolved from the plasma states until the very first elements formed and then solar systems, planets and then life. Yet all this stuff is just recycled energies and processes and not from a creation event.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I am not sure if the big bang was something from nothing. A creationist of course would say big bang was a creation event. The big bang doesnt answer where all this stuff we are using comes from. Yet it evolved from the plasma states until the very first elements formed and then solar systems, planets and then life. Yet all this stuff is just recycled energies and processes and not from a creation event.
The singularity was not created in the big bang. What and why it was i can't answer. But the big bang is not an ex nihilo explanation.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
The singularity was not created in the big bang. What and why it was i can't answer. But the big bang is not an ex nihilo explanation.

Well then, creationists will simply need to look for their creator god sometime before the singularity.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Well then, creationists will simply need to look for their creator god sometime before the singularity.

God can be eternal but the universe can't?

Also before the big bang is an oxymoron, space time began at the big bang.
 
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