Was the big bang creation or evolution?

[LuisDantas]

It is a bit speculative whether it even makes sense to ask if there was something before the Big Bang, so the question is itself very questionable.

One thing is certain. Whatever else it may have been or failed to be, the Big Bang was not biological in nature.

Whatever links it may conceivably have with the Theory of Evolution proposed by Darwin and Wallace are very general and arguable, probably not going beyond a very general "theme". They are also easily refutable, because they have little going for it beyond an esthetical perception.

 

[idav]

God can be eternal but the universe can't?

Arguably.

Also before the big bang is an oxymoron, space time began at the big bang.

I am not so sure. You could say time is a prison but may very well be one that existed before we were able to get locked up in it.

 

[Iti oj]

Arguably.

I am not so sure. You could say time is a prison but may very well be one that existed before we were able to get locked up in it.

Not with any scientific merit. Time is motion. Though space. We use the term.spacetime in math and science for a reason. Time began at bb. Fact

 

[idav]

Not with any scientific merit. Time is motion. Though space. We use the term.spacetime in math and science for a reason. Time began at bb. Fact

No you seem to misunderstand something. What makes people think the moments in the bb, are in time if relativity wouldn't allow it?

 

[Iti oj]

No you seem to misunderstand something. What makes people think the moments in the bb, are in time if relativity wouldn't allow it?

What? And no I'm not mistaken. My post is backed by all current scientific understanding. Time as we know and experience it is a human construct to explain an experience
Space and time are of the same fabric.

 

[Iti oj]

WHAT IS TIME

 

[idav]

What? And no I'm not mistaken. My post is backed by all current scientific understanding. Time as we know and experience it is a human construct to explain an experience
Space and time are of the same fabric.

The big bang would have mass and/or velocity that time stands still due to time dilation. That needs to be considered in all that.

 

[Iti oj]

The big bang would have mass and/or velocity that time stands still due to time dilation. That needs to be considered in all that.

Time doesn't stand still, it just behaves relative to the observers speed. Your making issues where there are none.

 

[Iti oj]

And the universe still has velocity, its still expanding, your argument works in my favor. Time is relative to motion through space because of that connection.

 

[idav]

Time doesn't stand still, it just behaves relative to the observers speed. Your making issues where there are none.

There is an issue. If a photon travels at the speed of light, how much time did it go through with so much change?

 

[Iti oj]

There is an issue. If a photon travels at the speed of light, how much time did it go through with so much change?

What? And light also functions as a wave... Though I'm not yet sure if that's relevant.

 

[idav]

What? And light also functions as a wave... Though I'm not yet sure if that's relevant.

Q: If a photon doesn’t experience time, then how can it travel? | Ask a Mathematician / Ask a Physicist

 

[outhouse]

Something from nothing is a creation, just something exploding doesnt make it a creation event.

Maybe you did not understand that comment

We don't know

Moving some goal post lol

 

[outhouse]

just something exploding doesnt make it a creation event.

Yes it does unless you can describe what a singularity is.


When everything expanded, space and time was created.

 

[outhouse]

so the question is itself very questionable.

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Thank you :bow:

 

[idav]

Yes it does unless you can describe what a singularity is.


When everything expanded, space and time was created.

The big bang wasnt going through time. Movement doesnt equal time.

http://www.askamathematician.com/20...oesnt-experience-time-then-how-can-it-travel/

 

[idav]

It is a bit speculative whether it even makes sense to ask if there was something before the Big Bang, so the question is itself very questionable.

One thing is certain. Whatever else it may have been or failed to be, the Big Bang was not biological in nature.

Whatever links it may conceivably have with the Theory of Evolution proposed by Darwin and Wallace are very general and arguable, probably not going beyond a very general "theme". They are also easily refutable, because they have little going for it beyond an esthetical perception.

The universe evolved too, I am not referring to biological evolution.

 

[Iti oj]

What? And light also functions as a wave... Though I'm not yet sure if that's relevant.

The big bang wasnt going through time. Movement doesnt equal time.

Q: If a photon doesn’t experience time, then how can it travel? | Ask a Mathematician / Ask a Physicist

I don't think that states what you think it states. And a light year is a distance, I think it takes one earth year to travel, regardless of the photon experiencing time or not. This doesn't refute my point.

 

[idav]

I don't think that states what you think it states. And a light year is a distance, I think it takes one earth year to travel, regardless of the photon experiencing time or not. This doesn't refute my point.

Sure it does. Time isnt change. A photon will travel a long distance but at the speed of light it doesnt go through time. So how can time be change, the bb wasnt going through time till physics allowed it, but doesnt change the billions of years that passed while the photon was doing all that work.

 

[Iti oj]

Sure it does. Time isnt change. A photon will travel a long distance but at the speed of light it doesnt go through time. So how can time be change, the bb wasnt going through time till physics allowed it, but doesnt change the billions of years that passed while the photon was doing all that work.

Time passed though I demonstrated that, it just wasn't experienced.