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Was the big bang creation or evolution?
- Thread starter idav
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I looking at it from multiple reference points. As if on the photons perspective during the big bang compared to the perspective of slowed down elements when time might began to get a tighter grip. If it were in a blackhole state asking before is still nonsensical..
Yet you only list one reference point. Time began to get a tighter grip? It takes 7htt
/minuets for the sun light to reach earth, regardless of the photons experience. Those are scenarios not frames of reference. In my example there were 3 the sun, earth and photon.
There is our reference point, objects not dilating time by going the speed of light.
I edited in, there are three references points. The sun, the earth, and the photon. You have a fundamental flaw in your understanding. One i have shown several times now.
From the reference of the universe, 14 billion year old photon has travelled light years yet didnt experience time. It changed but that didnt make it go in time. What makes things imprisoned in time is not being high enough velocity or mass which is everything after bb.
So are you ignoring my response on purpose?
I gotta know why I should consider bb to be in time. Thats what I disagree with. It was doing and changing with no time needing to be a factor, wouldn't be possible in those energy levels and masses according to special relativity.
Trying to get to it.
The things you keep saying have nothing to do with anything. You have to look at the other frames if reference, ie. Where it's coming from, where it's going what it passes, every thing ruse that is experiencing it.
What your posting is word salad based on a misinstructeding. Lights but the only thing in existence
The bb wasn't in time it started time.
psychoslice
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I see creation and evolution as one, their not separate, its all part of the whole.
How? By slowing down and losing mass?
Dude by exploding.
Haha, you mean expanding. You understand that as you approach black hole time will slow as you get closer. Same for if you were approaching a big bang.
Yes thanks lol
Yes because time is relative to motion , but there are multiple observers, refer back to the other example I used.
No it isnt relative to motion, velocity which takes energy to accomplish.
Yes it is, I've shown it is and the second half of your statement has nothing to do with this.
My contention isnt with motion. It is more specifically velocity, and that matters because you said the bb was doing something that made time start. That doesnt fit relativity. You cant say bb started time because time still didnt exist in the state when the bb was expanding, ie motion.
Why wouldn't it? Time only passes because things have velocity. If the universe dies in a big freeze then time stops and you have "eternity" which is the lack of time.