Was you baptised as a child?

[Augustus]

Yep, and English irregular-verb conjugations are not the most intuitive thing for many non-native speakers to begin with.

And the construction “was you…” would not be uncommon in certain regional dialects.

 

[Glaurung]

Yep, and English irregular-verb conjugations are not the most intuitive thing for many non-native speakers to begin with.

English learners have it easy. You don't get to complain about conjugation until you start learning a Romance language.

 

[Glaurung]

And the construction “was you…” would not be uncommon in certain regional dialects.

I think of such 'dialects' as American demotic.

 

[PureX]

I was baptised as a child in a evangelical-lutheran church. I have left that church and christianity. Now i am a new ager

Was you baptised as a child?

Did you left the church or are you still a member?

I was, and I did. Though I hold no exceptional animosity toward the religion I grew up with (Catholicism).

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yeah. It's not exactly like a baby can say yes or no. I did not baptize my daughter. I don't really see the point in baptizing as a baby, but I don't think it causes any harm. Since the person can later decide for themselves whether to stay or leave.

During my first marriage while we were trying to have kids, I came to a realization: my conscience wouldn't allow me to attend the baptisms for any of my children.

I agree that the water sprinkling ritual is a bit silly, but as I got into the theology behind baptism (Catholic baptism, in this case), I realized that my presence as the parent of the child being baptized would mean tacitly agreeing to this idea that my newborn baby is such a little ball of evil that God could very well be justified in torturing them forever, hence the need for the ritual to change this situation.

I agree that the water itself wouldn't do any harm, but I'm not so sure that a parent standing there nodding along to the meaning behind it wouldn't be pretty toxic.

I think a lot of Catholic families get their kids baptized for other reasons (e.g. just to avoid grief from Nonna), so this thought process doesn't necessarily enter into it for everyone, but I couldn't see a way for me to avoid it except by just not being there.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

During my first marriage while we were trying to have kids, I came to a realization: my conscience wouldn't allow me to attend the baptisms for any of my children.

I agree that the water sprinkling ritual is a bit silly, but as I got into the theology behind baptism (Catholic baptism, in this case), I realized that my presence as the parent of the child being baptized would mean tacitly agreeing to this idea that my newborn baby is such a little ball of evil that God could very well be justified in torturing them forever, hence the need for the ritual to change this situation.

I agree that the water itself wouldn't do any harm, but I'm not so sure that a parent standing there nodding along to the meaning behind it wouldn't be pretty toxic.

I think a lot of Catholic families get their kids baptized for other reasons (e.g. just to avoid grief from Nonna), so this thought process doesn't necessarily enter into it for everyone, but I couldn't see a way for me to avoid it except by just not being there.

Point taken. It's also so deeply ingrained a tradition that parents just shrug and go along.

(Also, kids generally don't become little balls of evil till the terrible twos anyway. )

 

[metis]

It's also so deeply ingrained a tradition that parents just shrug and go along.

Basically, it's a means to an end, not an end in and of itself. Parental presence is important, not so much for the parent but for the child so as to teach differences between right and wrong.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

Basically, it's a means to an end, not an end in and of itself. Parental presence is important, not so much for the parent but for the child so as to teach differences between right and wrong.

I've only ever seen people baptized as babies or adults. Never seen an older kid get baptized. May I presume different countries have different ages? Either way, a baby or a child under a certain age can't consent to it. Teens might get pressured into it I suppose, but it would be difficult to drag and dunk them in without causing a scene.

It really seems strange to me to dedicate a baby or child to a deity when they themselves have no agency, which is why I did not allow family to pressure me into doing the same. And hence why I said it's so deeply ingrained.

 

[metis]

Never seen an older kid get baptized. May I presume different countries have different ages?

Children can be baptized at any age.

BTW, I'm referring to Catholic baptisms.

Either way, a baby or a child under a certain age can't consent to it.

Doesn't make a difference as the Church split baptism into two parts around the 4th century: baptism and confirmation.

It really seems strange to me to dedicate a baby or child to a deity when they themselves have no agency, which is why I did not allow family to pressure me into doing the same.

That's understandable, which is why the Church teaches that baptism is not a magic show but should be reflecting the child's acceptance into Christianity with parental consent to try to encourage moral values. What that child does later will largely be up to him/her.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

Children can be baptized at any age.

BTW, I'm referring to Catholic baptisms.


Doesn't make a difference as the Church split baptism into two parts around the 4th century: baptism and confirmation.


That's understandable, which is why the Church teaches that baptism is not a magic show but should be reflecting the child's acceptance into Christianity with parental consent to try to encourage moral values. What that child does later will largely be up to him/her.

I know that, half of my family is catholic. Particularly my mother's side. All the family baptisms I've been invited to were when they were babies, except for a few adult baptisms at my step-dad's church, who was a regular run-of- the-mill Christian, and we just happened to be there that day anyway.

 

[RestlessSoul]

And the construction “was you…” would not be uncommon in certain regional dialects.

Innit.

 

[Muffled]

I was baptised as a child in a evangelical-lutheran church. I have left that church and christianity. Now i am a new ager

Was you baptised as a child?

Did you left the church or are you still a member?

I was not baptized nor dedicated but attended Sunday School. At one point joined the devil's side, leaving the church and later repented and returned to church.

 

[Muffled]

I were baptized as a baby. The way the good lord intended with just a sprinkle of water. Turns out that it did not take.

I believe I don't recall Him stating that intention. He just mentioned baptism as though everyone knew what that was and the only example we have in the Bible is adult immersion.

 

[Muffled]

For the last year of my mother's life I became her 24 hour a day care taker. I have a housemate for my place and left it pretty much up to her to take care of that and I moved back to my mother's house. I used to take her to church on Sundays and they knew that I was not a member and was well received there. It was because I still respected their beliefs that I would not take communion with them. I seriously think that they would not have been offended, but to me it would have been hypocritical.

Well I believe Paul thought you would get sick or die if you didn't know what you were doing taking communion but I took communion before I was saved and I believe I got a pass because I took it in good conscience.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I believe I don't recall Him stating that intention. He just mentioned baptism as though everyone knew what that was and the only example we have in the Bible is adult immersion.

There are a few verses (in Acts and 1 Corinthians) that speak to baptism of whole families or households all at once. It would be unusual for none of these to have included children.

 

[paarsurrey]

Were you baptised as a child?

Every Child is born a Muslim (whatever the religion or no-religion of the child), so no Baptism is required, in Islam, right, please?"

30:31 So set thy face to the service of religion as one devoted to God. And follow the nature made by Allah — the nature in which He has created mankind. There is no altering the creation of Allah. That is the right religion. But most men know not. Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
Right?

Regards
________________
Friend @John D. Brey
Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time, is below:
30:31 فَاَقِمۡ وَجۡہَکَ لِلدِّیۡنِ حَنِیۡفًا ؕ فِطۡرَتَ اللّٰہِ الَّتِیۡ فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَیۡہَا ؕ لَا تَبۡدِیۡلَ لِخَلۡقِ اللّٰہِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ الدِّیۡنُ الۡقَیِّمُ ٭ۙ وَلٰکِنَّ اَکۡثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿٭ۙ۳۱
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Hadith of Muhammad:
Sahih Muslim » The Book of Destiny - كتاب القدر » Hadith 2658 b
(6) Chapter: The Meaning Of "Every Child Is Born In A State Of Fitrah" And The Ruling On The Dead Children Of The Disbelievers And Of The Muslims:-
"There is none born but is created to his true nature (Islam). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Magian quite as beasts produce their young with their limbs perfect. Do you see anything deficient in them? Then he quoted the Qur'an., The nature made by Allah in which He has created men there is no altering of Allah's creation; that is the right religion" (ar-Rum:30)
كتاب القدر
(6)بَاب مَعْنَى كُلِّ مَوْلُودٍ يُولَدُ عَلَى الْفِطْرَةِ وَحُكْمِ مَوْتِ أَطْفَالِ الْكُفَّارِ وَأَطْفَالِ الْمُسْلِمِينَ

حَدَّثَنَا حَاجِبُ بْنُ الْوَلِيدِ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، عَنِ الزُّبَيْدِيِّ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، أَخْبَرَنِي سَعِيدُ بْنُ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّهُ كَانَ يَقُولُ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ مَا مِنْ مَوْلُودٍ إِلاَّ يُولَدُ عَلَى الْفِطْرَةِ فَأَبَوَاهُ يُهَوِّدَانِهِ وَيُنَصِّرَانِهِ وَيُمَجِّسَانِهِ كَمَا تُنْتَجُ الْبَهِيمَةُ بَهِيمَةً ..مْعَاءَ هَلْ تُحِسُّونَ فِيهَا مِنْ جَدْعَاءَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ ثُمَّ يَقُولُ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ وَاقْرَءُوا إِنْ شِئْتُمْ ‏{‏ فِطْرَةَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا لاَ تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ‏} الآيَةَ ‏.‏

Reference	: Sahih Muslim 2658b
In-book reference	: Book 46, Hadith 34
USC-MSA web (English) reference	: Book 33, Hadith 6423
(deprecated numbering scheme)

 

[MelancholicPotatoChip]

I was baptised as a child in a evangelical-lutheran church. I have left that church and christianity. Now i am a new ager

Was you baptised as a child?

Did you left the church or are you still a member?

I wasn't baptized as a child but did get baptized as an adult. I left religion and I am happy to report I am an atheist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Were you baptised as a child?

Every Child is born a Muslim (whatever the religion or no-religion of the child), so no Baptism is required, in Islam, right, please?"

30:31 So set thy face to the service of religion as one devoted to God. And follow the nature made by Allah — the nature in which He has created mankind. There is no altering the creation of Allah. That is the right religion. But most men know not. Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
Right?

Regards
________________
Friend @John D. Brey
Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time, is below:
30:31 فَاَقِمۡ وَجۡہَکَ لِلدِّیۡنِ حَنِیۡفًا ؕ فِطۡرَتَ اللّٰہِ الَّتِیۡ فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَیۡہَا ؕ لَا تَبۡدِیۡلَ لِخَلۡقِ اللّٰہِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ الدِّیۡنُ الۡقَیِّمُ ٭ۙ وَلٰکِنَّ اَکۡثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿٭ۙ۳۱

What makes you think that ever child is born a Muslim? It is far more accurate to say every child is born an atheist. There is no evidence at all that any children are born with a belief in a god much less the Muslim god. It appears that someone has been lying to you and you believed it since that is a comforting belief for you.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Frankly, I have absolutely no idea.

 

[VoidCat]

What makes you think that ever child is born a Muslim? It is far more accurate to say every child is born an atheist. There is no evidence at all that any children are born with a belief in a god much less the Muslim god. It appears that someone has been lying to you and you believed it since that is a comforting belief for you.

Im not saying i agree with it. I dont know the full context to the belief but it's a common belief among Muslims that everyone is born a muslim. It could be an accountability thing like you can't chose to be a Muslim or not one as a child so the default is Muslim. Same with folk who never heard of Islam. But it also could be a belief everyone submits to god when born. I have no idea. Imma tag @Link. He might know where that belief comes from and what it means. I never looked into it it's just something ive heard