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We Are Alone in the Universe!

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
But look what it took for life on earth to evolve, all the phenomena that it took to just to get a few amino acid going. What are the chances of that being replicated over and over again throughout the whole universe?

It apparently didnt take much for life to form. The correct materials which are available all over the universe and time, which the universe has in abundance. Entropy reached the stage that life can form across the universe. Finally places for it to jel, of the few thousand exoplanets discovered it seems that about 10% are possibly to host life (although much more observation is required). There are literally trillions of planets out there.
 
It apparently didnt take much for life to form. The correct materials which are available all over the universe and time, which the universe has in abundance. Entropy reached the stage that life can form across the universe. Finally places for it to jel, of the few thousand exoplanets discovered it seems that about 10% are possibly to host life (although much more observation is required). There are literally trillions of planets out there.
Life is still not inevitable no matter how much time or material you have.
 
Notice this sentence:
"A new paper shows how an analysis using a statistical technique called Bayesian inference could shed light on how complex extraterrestrial life might evolve in alien worlds."
Not "can evolve" or "does evolve" but "might evolve". Their assumptions are based on belief not absolute factual evidence. They are assuming intelligent life might exist on the basis of faith.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Notice this sentence:
"A new paper shows how an analysis using a statistical technique called Bayesian inference could shed light on how complex extraterrestrial life might evolve in alien worlds."
Not "can evolve" or "does evolve" but "might evolve". Their assumptions are based on belief not absolute factual evidence. They are assuming intelligent life might exist on the basis of faith.

And you're assuming it doesn't exist, also based on faith.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Notice this sentence:
"A new paper shows how an analysis using a statistical technique called Bayesian inference could shed light on how complex extraterrestrial life might evolve in alien worlds."
Not "can evolve" or "does evolve" but "might evolve". Their assumptions are based on belief not absolute factual evidence. They are assuming intelligent life might exist on the basis of faith.

Yes might. That'd the thing when there is no evidence. One MUST be honest

So do you have evidence that there is no life out there?
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Faith in the evidence I have.

@ChristineM also presented evidence. Yet you have gone beyond the evidence and concluded definitely in your mind that in tens of billions of other galaxies there is not a single other example of intelligent life, anywhere but here. That's simply not reasonable. You don't have the evidence to conclude that.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Is it statistically probable that Invisible Pink Unicorns or Zeus exist or is it statistically improbable that they exist? I highly doubt Invisible Pink Unicorns can exist. They are an absurdity and so is intelligent life on other planets.
Actually, that is very poorly argued.

In fact, since we know for certain that life exists right here, right now, it is not only statistically probable that life arises -- it is a statistical certainty.

And for that reason, with quite literally hundreds of billions of other worlds on which it might happen, it seems extremely likely that it did.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
There is absolutely no evidence that intelligent and/or complex life exists elsewhere in the universe. So we must assume that we are alone in the universe and must be the only intelligent life that exist in it. Couple that with the fact that God does not exist, I feel somewhat sad and more convince that life is indeed absurd.

'Arguing from ignorance,' example: We have not seen a black swan, therefore black swans do not exist.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
There is absolutely no evidence that intelligent and/or complex life exists elsewhere in the universe. So we must assume that we are alone in the universe and must be the only intelligent life that exist in it. Couple that with the fact that God does not exist, I feel somewhat sad and more convince that life is indeed absurd.

That's absurd. It would be like saying that I've searched the entirety of Kansas and haven't found evidence for a single kangaroo, thus we must assume that kangaroos don't exist.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
There is absolutely no evidence that intelligent and/or complex life exists elsewhere in the universe. So we must assume that we are alone in the universe
We Are Alone in the Universe!

IMO:

The Universe is big, so, only someone who is omniscient + omnipresent is able to make such a claim and know the claim is correct

We are "All one" in the Universe is a claim made by some Advaitists, which makes sense to me. The above makes no sense
 

PureX

Veteran Member
There is absolutely no evidence that intelligent and/or complex life exists elsewhere in the universe. So we must assume that we are alone in the universe and must be the only intelligent life that exist in it. Couple that with the fact that God does not exist, I feel somewhat sad and more convince that life is indeed absurd.
Basically, what you've just proposed is that we should make assumptions based on nothing.
 
@ChristineM also presented evidence. Yet you have gone beyond the evidence and concluded definitely in your mind that in tens of billions of other galaxies there is not a single other example of intelligent life, anywhere but here. That's simply not reasonable. You don't have the evidence to conclude that.
Have we seen any evidence that intelligent life exist anywhere else but here? Where are they? We should be getting reruns of alien versions of I Love Lucy by now if they progress to a technological level to invent radio or television. We keep listening and sending but so far nothing.
 
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