What calculations makes you an atheist ?

[HonestJoe]

Why can't we say it like this ?
That the profit, or loss out of a certain belief is a subconscious conclusion, a largely involuntary response to the collection of knowledge, experiences and brain structure a person has.

You could say that if you want but it wouldn't make any sense. You can't avoid the fact that atheism and theism aren't conscious choice so nobody is making a profit/loss assessment of them.

Sometimes, an individual find LOSS in giving much importance to something that is very little in practice as they're very generic and don't imply any specific actions or details.

We're not talking about giving anything importance. A person is atheist or theist regardless of how much importance they give to the fact. What people actually give importance to isn't just whether they believe any kind of god or gods exist.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I calculated the number of convincing arguments to believe in gods.
The result was zero.

Oh bugger, my division had a leftover.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh bugger, my division had a leftover.

I like leftovers.

 

[ajarntham]

. . . Atheist becomes an Atheist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being an Atheist.
Theist becomes a Theist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Theist.

What makes one's so ?
Ans: CALCULATIONS.

Profit or Loss ?
Ans: PROFIT. Because there's nobody who want Loss. [. . .]

Taking all the above written into consideration, I want to ask you:

What CALCULATIONS makes you an ATHEIST ?

It's quite understood that there might be some kind of PROFIT that you have seen in becoming an atheist. What is that ? I want to learn from you.

Assuming you believe in a spherical earth, what profit have you seen in becoming a believer?

(That's not to say I think theism is as absurd as flat-earth belief -- I don't -- but just to show why it isn't always a search for "profit" which guides our conclusions.)

 

[chinu]

Assuming you believe in a spherical earth, what profit have you seen in becoming a believer?

PROFIT joining the belief of majority of people.

 

[chinu]

I calculated the number of convincing arguments to believe in gods.
The result was zero.

And your PROFITED by taking this truth into your own account.

All the best..

 

[chinu]

You win the forums today.

PROFITABLE forum member!

 

[columbus]

PROFIT joining the belief of majority of people.

In what way is that a profit?
It's an observation that I couldn't choose not to make. It explains everything from horizons to day and night.
Tom

 

[chinu]

Many people here are also receiving frubals PROFIT

Some are PROFITING by getting many likes on their posts.

Frubals,
Likes,
Winner,
Optimistic,
Etc.

Many kinds of PROFITS here.

 

[chinu]

In what way is that a profit?
It's an observation that I couldn't choose not to make. It explains everything from horizons to day and night.
Tom

Child got good marks from science from science teacher.

Isn’t that an enough of his profit ?

 

[columbus]

Child got good marks from science from science teacher.

Isn’t that an enough of his profit ?

No.
That is a positive side effect.

But the real "profit" is having a better life by better understanding the universe we live in.
I suppose, by your awkward meaning of the word "profit", that's the profit in being an agnostic non-theist. I recognize the human limitations that are so very real, and don't develop the illusion that I understand anything important about God.
Tom

 

[ChristineM]

Murderer becomes a Murderer after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Murderer.
Rapist becomes a Rapist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Rapist.
Robber becomes a Robber after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Robber.
Doctor becomes a Doctor after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Doctor.
Politician becomes a Politician after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Politician.
Scientist becomes a Scientist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Scientist.
Donor becomes a Donor after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Donor.

Similarly,

Atheist becomes an Atheist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being an Atheist.
Theist becomes a Theist after CALCULATING the Profit & Loss of being a Theist.

What makes one's so ?
Ans: CALCULATIONS.

Profit or Loss ?
Ans: PROFIT. Because there's nobody who want Loss.

IF there's something wrong with any of the character (For example: Murderer), its his/her MISCALCULATION which is showing some kind of PROFIT of being so.
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Taking all the above written into consideration, I want to ask you:

What CALCULATIONS makes you an ATHEIST ?

It's quite understood that there might be some kind of PROFIT that you have seen in becoming an atheist. What is that ? I want to learn from you.

For me i calculated the falsifiable evidence versus lack of falsifiable evidence. Guess which won out

Profit? Not really but a great benefit. I no longer had members of my church mocking me

And what's your profit in being a theist?

 

[Revoltingest]

And your PROFITED by taking this truth into your own account.

All the best..

It was a non-profit calculation....an IRS 501c3 activity.

 

[ppp]

Nope. No profit or loss calculations caused me to stop believing. Any actual profit or loss were not calculated.

 

[chinu]

For me i calculated the falsifiable evidence versus lack of falsifiable evidence. Guess which won out

Profit? Not really but a great benefit. I no longer had members of my church mocking me

Benefit, or profit I don't think this makes any much difference here. You know your own profit better then me. All I can do is only make guesses.

But, yes one always has some kind of profit or another beside. That is also true.

And what's your profit in being a theist?

I got the company of precious and priceless friend by being a theist.

That was my PROFIT

 

[chinu]

It was a non-profit calculation....an IRS 501c3 activity.

At least, the required amount PROFIT is always required to organise any non-profit organisation. Further people happily join them to take get the associated BENEFITS.

 

[chinu]

Nope. No profit or loss calculations caused me to stop believing. Any actual profit or loss were not calculated.

Stop believing in.. what ?

 

[ppp]

Stop believing in.. what ?

You mean, Stop believing that.. what?

 

[chinu]

I've given most of the reasons why I don't tend to believe elsewhere - mostly down to probabilities than calculations (although such would be seen as this), and no gain gotten or wanted. Can't be avoided for some of us if we desire to achieve honesty in our thinking. I could have replied a lot more aggressively, but you don't deserve such.

Thank you friend

 

[chinu]

You mean, Stop believing that.. what?

Still am confused with your reply.