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What came before the Big Bang?
- Thread starter yoda89
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godnotgod
Thou art That
Thief
Rogue Theologian
godnotgod
Thou art That
That which is non-existent cannot be denied; it can only be negated.
Since there is no such "I" on this side of your screen, the question as to its existence does not pertain; it pertains only to your side of the screen.
Who, or what, is this "I" you continue to say is real?
One more try, and then I will conclude that you have failed to demonstrate its existence, it being only a self-created principle; a complete illusion; a total fraud.
"all", "I", "you", "us", "we", "them", "fabric", "self", "substrate", "backround", "agent", and of course GNG's "consciousness".
All these factors are included in one own's gnosis of everything that exists around, and in, us.
I think the most important factor is the "us" of what we all feel as true existence.
The are are a lot of people that want, or desire, to carry those factors with them.
They believe in after life existences, I wish them well in their wishes, or prayers.
Some of us are happy to have lived in the existence we experience in the "now", as it wizzes by.
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But what does that all have to do with the "before the Big Bang" fiascal ?
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Maybe it all belongs in the after death thread ? Ya think ?
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And Thief never answered the question (welll..several of them) starting with:
"How old is the Judeo/Christian God"
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I'm done now, go back to your quibbling.
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'mud
All these factors are included in one own's gnosis of everything that exists around, and in, us.
I think the most important factor is the "us" of what we all feel as true existence.
The are are a lot of people that want, or desire, to carry those factors with them.
They believe in after life existences, I wish them well in their wishes, or prayers.
Some of us are happy to have lived in the existence we experience in the "now", as it wizzes by.
~
But what does that all have to do with the "before the Big Bang" fiascal ?
~
Maybe it all belongs in the after death thread ? Ya think ?
~
And Thief never answered the question (welll..several of them) starting with:
"How old is the Judeo/Christian God"
~
I'm done now, go back to your quibbling.
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'mud
godnotgod
Thou art That
The traces of experience are not the experience, nor are they the experiencer we call "I" that we think they are.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Yes, the foundation is necessary.
William Marques
Member
I do believe in others dimensions where we can't "feel" with the eyes, sound, touch and smell, but another perception takes place.
William Marques
Member
I believe the body is a temporal expression of the divine essence that dwells within us, God is omnipresent transcending time and matter
factseeker88
factseeker88
I agree with your first part, but have issues with the second part.
Illusion is perceptive, not the same for everyone, and illusions can only be believed, not be demonstrated.
:yes::yes::yes:
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]No lesson is so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should NEVER TRUST EXPERTS Lord Salisbury[/FONT]
"QUESTION EVERYTHING." TV Science channel
godnotgod
Thou art That
Yes, but once the illusion is detected, that which it represented as being real, can then be negated.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
And in the negation you then have reality.
Reality will prove greater.
Let it happen.
God did.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Yes, that is correct. Negation of the illusory "I" leaves Reality, which is simply seeing things as they are, without a see-er of Reality.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
godnotgod
Thou art That
I see. So Reality did not exist before that, meaning that God is not real. Very good, Thief....very good.
I think what took hold is your delusion and has refused to let go to this day.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
godnotgod
Thou art That
Duh yourself. You are the one that said God created reality, which, if we are being logical, can only mean that reality did not exist prior to that creation, and if that is the case, then God cannot have been real either. You are stuck, Thief. No way out.
Checkmate.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Never.
You can't move past your own existence.
How then to deal with anything Greater?
I'm not the one who is stuck.
godnotgod
Thou art That
This post proves you're stuck, and going round in circles.
Checkmate, mate. Game Over. Tilt.
End of discussion. :beach:
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
Oh no you don't.....you didn't prove anything.
And 'you' can't help 'yourself'.
'You' will post again.
We are not playing chess.....just your taste for word salad.
Pass the mayo.