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What came before the Big Bang?
- Thread starter yoda89
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
You post the most ridiculous comparison.....and treat it like gospel.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
It was the manner of which God did answer the question....whose law is this?
And Moses was told.....
Tell the people...I Am!....and they that understand will know whose law this is!
RichardParker
Member
How do... you... know that... god... told... Moses "I... am"...?
Because you...'ve... read it... in the... bible? So... how... do you... know... that the... bible is... reliable?
I... have never... heard... god... tell me... "I am...". And even... if he... did... this wouldn't... tell me...anything... because... even I... can.... say "I...am".
Thief
Rogue Theologian
In making jest........................it is clear you DO understand.
and therefore no excuse before heaven.
RichardParker
Member
godnotgod
Thou art That
Show me how God is NOT a circle whose circumference is endless and whose center is everywhere.
Monk Of Reason
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Even if the circumference of the circle was infinite then the center would still be the center. I can have a circle who, theoretically, exists with an infinite dimensions. However because there are different degrees of infinity (as can be proven through math) there is still a center. A very specific infinitely small center.
For example even if the radius is infinity the diameter would still be twice as long. Therefore it would have to still be the same in all directions. The infinity of the radius would have to be equal to all sides of a single point and the diameter would have to be the an infinity that is functionally double. And the circumference and volume subsequently so.
Can you explain to me this whole phrase?
godnotgod
Thou art That
That would be how it works. And possible to get to that center from any point in our spacetime.
godnotgod
Thou art That
You see, the mystics have been laughing at our puny attempts with outdated space hardware all this time. They know that they are already everywhere at once. But that's what happens when you stand absolutely still.
godnotgod
Thou art That
The great man, the great man
Historians his memory
Artists, his senses, thinkers, his brain
Labourers, his growth, explorers, his limbs
And soldiers his death each second
And mystics his rebirth each second
Businessmen, his nervous system
No-hustle men his stomach
Astrologers, his balance, lovers, his loins
His skin it is all patchy
But soon will reach one glowing hue
God is his soul, infinity, his goal
The mystery, his source
And civilisation, he leaves behind
Opinions are his fingernails
The great ship, the ship of the world, long time sailing
Mariners, mariners, gather your skills
Jesus and Hitler and Richard, the lion heart
Three kings and Moses and Queen Cleopatra
The Cobbler, the maiden, the mender and the maker
The sickener and the twitcher and the glad undertaker
The shepherd of willows
The harper and the archer
All sat down in one boat together
Troubled voyage in calm weather
Maya, Maya,
All this world is but a play
Be thou the joyful player
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
Finally....someone smart enough to mention spirals....and use semi-quotes on the word....'time'.
Atta boy!
Monk Of Reason
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
They are at the center of their visible universe yes. But that does not make them the center of "the" universe. The reason why they are at the center of their own visible universe's is because there is a limit to the speed of light. There is light that still hasn't reached us and those "rays" of light (remember the mathematical term for a ray? Its important in this discussion) creates a radius in all directions that give us the spherical version of our visible universe. But there is no "actual" center to the universe.
godnotgod
Thou art That
...which is only to say that every point is A center, but not THE center, as in:
"...whose center is everywhere."
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and there are many gods, but only One Almighty!
"you" might see it....but 'I' think 'you' are coming around.
Enlightenment is pending!
Go for it!
godnotgod
Thou art That
TurkeyOnRye
Well-Known Member
The big bang is a non-causal event. Nothing created it or triggered it to happen. Cause and effect do not factor into the equation. Cause and effect is purely a human perspective.