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What convinced you that Evolution is the truth?

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
I doubt that. We'll likely find more environmentally friendly ways to exist. We already are.
Well. The alternatives are not nice.

Humanity could overcome it's greatest enemy, itself. I agree it's possible. However I am not at all certain that current trends are reversible. Fundamental systemic climatic changes, such as the desalination of the Atlantic ocean and retreating ice caps the world over, may now be beyond any hope of human control or manipulation.

It will be a case of adapt or die. As always.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Well. The alternatives are not nice.

Humanity could overcome it's own greatest enemy, itself. I agree it's possible. However I am not at all certain that current trends are reversible. Fundamental systemic climatic changes, such as the desalination of the Atlantic ocean and retreating ice caps the world over, may now be beyond any hope of human control or manipulation.

It will be a case of adapt or die. As always.

We shall see.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
And we didn't even invent agriculture, just discovered it for ourselves. Leaf cutter ants had agriculture millions of years before us.
They didn't need agricultural classes then and they don't need them now.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
OK, this is where sci-fi starts.
Yes, but philosophy doesn't end here. It is still a question of the purpose of life.
If the purpose of life is to survive and to multiply, space migration is the only answer. Even if we get our **** together and maximise life on Earth, this planet is limited and the next killer asteroid or grb is only a matter of time. We'd better not have all our eggs in one basket then.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Yes, but philosophy doesn't end here. It is still a question of the purpose of life.
If the purpose of life is to survive and to multiply, space migration is the only answer. Even if we get our **** together and maximise life on Earth, this planet is limited and the next killer asteroid or grb is only a matter of time. We'd better not have all our eggs in one basket then.

Like everything in the universe we will come to an end one day. The only question is when?
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Not really the case historically, but I'm not going to explain why.

Brain is dumb today.

Modern medicine has demonstrably lengthened our lifespans. And reduced deaths of moms in childbirth and young kiddos. On the flipside, there are certainly elements of hunter-gatherer life that would help us, like a whole food diet and more exercise/daily movement.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Modern medicine has demonstrably lengthened our lifespans. And reduced deaths of moms in childbirth and young kiddos. On the flipside, there are certainly elements of hunter-gatherer life that would help us, like a whole food diet and more exercise/daily movement.

It has not lengthened our life span or expectancy. The average adult (who makes it to adulthood) throughout history has lived to be a out 65/70.

High infant mortality drags that down, making it seem like our life expectancy was short.

"In some ways, life expectancy has not changed all that much from 1800 to what it is today. Setting aside infant and child mortality, the average lifespan for women and men of the mid-Victorian era was 73 and 75 respectively. By comparison, in 2021, the average life expectancy for females in the United States was 79 while the average life expectancy for males was 73."
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
It has not lengthened our life span or expectancy. The average adult (who makes it to adulthood) throughout history has lived to be a out 65/70.

Right now the average lifespan in the West is about 80.

High infant mortality drags that down, making it seem like our life expectancy was short.

And that high infant mortality is precisely one of the things modern medicine has improved.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Right now the average lifespan in the West is about 80.



And that high infant mortality is precisely one of the things modern medicine has improved.

Edited my previous post. Life expectancy has barely moved in 200 years.

I'm not saying modern medicine is wrong.
 
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