What convinced you that Evolution is the truth?

[YoursTrue]

Yes I used to be a Christian. But why is this necessary? When in human history was it not perilous times?

I'm not disagreeing that awful situations were here since Adam & Eve left the Garden of Eden. Evolution obviously is not going to solve mankind's problems. Only God can and will.

 

[Little Dragon]

Once again, God does not want humans to mistreat animals or each other, but He is letting them off on their own since Adam sinned. He will, however, restore the earth to a beautiful situation for mankind and animals in the near enough future.

Nice fantasy.

 

[Little Dragon]

Once again, God does not want humans to mistreat animals or each other, but He is letting them off on their own since Adam sinned.

Once again, when humanity is gone, the Earth will be beautiful again. Humanity itself is the intrinsic problem, not the sins of a hypothetical ancestor.

 

[Little Dragon]

Evolution obviously is not going to solve mankind's problems

What a silly thing to say. So ridiculous.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Once again, when humanity is gone, the Earth will be beautiful again. Humanity itself is the intrinsic problem, not the sins of a hypothetical ancestor.

What is it about humanity that is problematic? Other than our success as a species, for which nature appears to have equipped us?

 

[Little Dragon]

Only God can and will.

Isn't that preaching?

 

[Little Dragon]

What is it about humanity that is problematic? Other than our success as a species, for which nature appears to have equipped us?

You must be joking.

"Human impacts on biodiversity stem from overhunting and overfishing, habitat loss and degradation, climate change, and the facilitation of species invasions. Starting about 50,000 years ago, humans began playing a role in extinctions though overhunting as our species spread to new areas of the globe."

Unit 1 Reading

by Camille A. Holmgren, SUNY Buffalo State Industrial development and population growth have driven our species to exploit ever more of the planet's resources. As a result, human activities are having a ...

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The 6th mass extinction, caused by humans. Is problematic.

The fact the human species is a toxic polluting cancer upon this world, a filthy revolting disease.

Is somewhat problematic, for all other life on Earth.

 

[YoursTrue]

I agree this is interesting and good evidence. I was a creationist at one time. It was other things that lead me to atheism but once I became an atheist I wanted to know about evolution.

We all have different stories, don't we. I was an agnostic turned atheist at one time for quite a while. Until much later. I believe God gave me time to think about it and compare what I saw (worldview perhaps) and how I read the Bible (different from what I saw until God helped me make my mind over).

 

[YoursTrue]

Isn't that preaching?

I don't think so, I'm expressing my viewpoint as you are expressing yours. If you think I'm preaching, why not look at yourself as for preaching your ideas against mine, ok? I'm giving my view which is obviously not the way you see things. Have a nice day.

 

[Little Dragon]

I don't think so, I'm expressing my viewpoint as you are expressing yours. If you think I'm preaching, why not look at yourself as for preaching your ideas against mine, ok? I'm giving my view which is obviously not the way you see things. Have a nice day.

Obviously...

 

[YoursTrue]

Isn't that preaching?

By the way, if you don't agree with my beliefs, and express that, you are preaching your view. Meantime, whatever the outcome, I know and believe that evolution will not do the job as expected by some. Have a nice day.

 

[Little Dragon]

Have a nice day.

You too. No offence intended. I do hate the human species collectively, that is undeniable, but I do feel differently about individual human beings, so I hope you don't think my posts were intended to be personal, unfortunately you just happen to be a totemic standard bearer for all that I find utterly objectionable.

 

[Little Dragon]

By the way, if you don't agree with my beliefs, and express that, you are preaching your view. Meantime, whatever the outcome, I know and believe that evolution will not do the job as expected by some. Have a nice day.

Yeah but the rules are clear on preaching. You are supposed to say something like, in my opinion or some such thing. I've got in trouble for that before.
When making assertions about untestable matters as if they were fact.

 

[Left Coast]

You must be joking.

"Human impacts on biodiversity stem from overhunting and overfishing, habitat loss and degradation, climate change, and the facilitation of species invasions. Starting about 50,000 years ago, humans began playing a role in extinctions though overhunting as our species spread to new areas of the globe."

Unit 1 Reading

by Camille A. Holmgren, SUNY Buffalo State Industrial development and population growth have driven our species to exploit ever more of the planet's resources. As a result, human activities are having a ...

serc.carleton.edu

The 6th mass extinction, caused by humans. Is problematic.

The fact the human species is a toxic polluting cancer upon this world, a filthy revolting disease.

Is somewhat problematic, for all other life on Earth.

If I recall correctly, 99% of all species on Earth have gone extinct in the 4.5 billion year history of our planet. That doesn't mean we shouldn't care about environmental preservation or climate change or overfishing/hunting, etc. Those are problems. But I would not call us a "cancer," as though we are only all bad and should go extinct ourselves.

 

[RestlessSoul]

You must be joking.

"Human impacts on biodiversity stem from overhunting and overfishing, habitat loss and degradation, climate change, and the facilitation of species invasions. Starting about 50,000 years ago, humans began playing a role in extinctions though overhunting as our species spread to new areas of the globe."

Unit 1 Reading

by Camille A. Holmgren, SUNY Buffalo State Industrial development and population growth have driven our species to exploit ever more of the planet's resources. As a result, human activities are having a ...

serc.carleton.edu

The 6th mass extinction, caused by humans. Is problematic.

The fact the human species is a toxic polluting cancer upon this world, a filthy revolting disease.

Is somewhat problematic, for all other life on Earth.

I think you missed the point. Let me rephrase it.

We are products of nature, are we not? So what is different about us, what makes us so destructive? I’m not asking for evidence of our capacity for destruction, I’m asking what is it in our nature which makes us so harmful to other living things?

 

[Left Coast]

I'm not disagreeing that awful situations were here since Adam & Eve left the Garden of Eden. Evolution obviously is not going to solve mankind's problems. Only God can and will.

It's not evolution's purpose to "solve mankind's problems." Neither is it the purpose of plate tectonics or the water cycle or literally any other natural phenomenon.

 

[Little Dragon]

But I would not call us a "cancer," as though we are only all bad and should go extinct ourselves

Well what else what you call a life form that destroys and consumes it's host?

If I recall correctly, 99% of all species on Earth have gone extinct in the 4.5 billion year history of our planet.

Indeed. However that does not mean humanity has a right to obliterate everything it comes across. Nor does it negate the fact that humanity is causing another mass extinction event.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't care about environmental preservation or climate change or overfishing/hunting, etc.

Oh good. Well, if humanity does not change path, then it will be destroying, beyond all recovery, its own life support system. Deservedly so. The problem will solve itself.

 

[Little Dragon]

I’m not asking for evidence of our capacity for destruction, I’m asking what is it in our nature which makes us so harmful to other living things?

Short sighted ignorance and greed mostly.

 

[Little Dragon]

I’m asking what is it in our nature which makes us so harmful to other living things?

Humanity thinks it literally has a God given right to foul this world. It is wrong. It is of no benefit to this world, humanity is a curse, to all other creatures, all other life. Nothing needs humanity. Nothing depends on humanity. Humanity is worse than surplus, it is harmful. The most invasive of invasive species.

 

[Left Coast]

Well what else what you call a life form that destroys and consumes it's host?

We don't, though. We don't even have a host, properly speaking. Consider how many lifeforms must consume other life to live.

Indeed. However that does not mean humanity has a right to obliterate everything it comes across. Nor does it negate the fact that humanity is causing another mass extinction event.

Agreed.

Oh good. Well, if humanity does not change path, then it will be destroying, beyond all recovery, its own life support system. Deservedly so. The problem will solve itself.

I suspect we will adapt as we've done for tens of thousands of years.