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What do Christians really think about the Qur'an

Before I ever read the Qur'an I was taught that it was the work of the devil by many christian religions. It seams that the majority of christians see the Qur'an as being a negative or bad book. Do any christians thing the Qur'an is part of scripture or do they mostly think it is an evil book.
 

PVE1

Member
It would be difficult to find many (if any) Christians that hold the Qu'ran to be apart of their canon. Many Christians, such as myself, believe that many paths lead to God. So while they may not adhere to the Qu'ran, they understand that others may and if that is the path of God they choose then good for them.
 

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
Before I ever read the Qur'an I was taught that it was the work of the devil by many christian religions. It seams that the majority of christians see the Qur'an as being a negative or bad book. Do any christians thing the Qur'an is part of scripture or do they mostly think it is an evil book.

Not a Christian, but I guess I'll litter my 2 cents. I don't think the Quran is evil at all. But I do have a copy I recently picked up, and all my perusal of it leads to the opinion that its just a terrible book, containing nothing useful or enlightening for a modern world, yet another book written by ancient and ignorant men thinking their words were somehow divine.
 

sniper762

Well-Known Member
i am a bible believing christian. i read through the quran to be knowledgeable about other religions. i found many sayings within the quran to be (to me) contrary to my belief of treating my fellow man, therefore i find it to be ungodly written and unworthy of worship.
 

johannes

Member
Before I ever read the Qur'an I was taught that it was the work of the devil by many christian religions. It seams that the majority of christians see the Qur'an as being a negative or bad book. Do any christians thing the Qur'an is part of scripture or do they mostly think it is an evil book.
Clearly the Qur'an has been written by a prophet for the benefit of another culture.
 
My personal view is that the Qur'an is not the word of God. My reasons for this are several, but one is that the Bible teaches (God says) that if someone who thinks he is a prophet (eg. Muhammad) says things that a) turn people away from God (Yahweh,) and b) encourage people to chase after other gods (Allah) then that person is a false prophet, and to ignore him. This is one reason I ignore what's in the Qur'an, and don't think it's "scripture."
 
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fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
My personal view is that the Qur'an is not the word of God. My reasons for this are several, but one is that the Bible teaches (God says) that if someone who thinks he is a prophet (eg. Muhammad) says things that a) turn people away from God (Yahweh,) and b) encourage people to chase after other gods (Allah) then that person is a false prophet, and to ignore him. This is one reason I ignore what's in the Qur'an, and don't think it's "scripture."
God and Allah are the same. Jews and Christians in Arabia also used the term Allah for God. There is no difference between them.


The above is a good segue to what I was going to say anyway. I would say most Christians have a misconstrued view of Islam and the Quran. Most have not read the Quran, and if those who have, did so with a strong bias and no want for true understanding. The same problems and evils that they find in the Quran are also found in the Bible. Or can be if taken out of context and made to be taken in negative ways. Also, the historical context never figures in for the majority of Christians, and to read the Quran, it is a good thing to know some what of the history.
 

Wombat

Active Member
....its just a terrible book, containing nothing useful or enlightening for a modern world, yet another book written by ancient and ignorant men thinking their words were somehow divine.

:facepalm:
The Bible, The Qur'an and Science by Dr. Maurice Bucaille
[FONT=Garamond, Times New Roman, Times]THE HOLY SCRIPTURES EXAMINED IN THE LIGHT[/FONT]
[FONT=Garamond, Times New Roman, Times]OF MODERN KNOWLEDGE[/FONT]

The Bible, The Qur'an and Science


--sura 21, verse 30:
"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they then not believe?"

"ancient and ignorant men" taking a lucky guess stab in the dark...and getting it right- over and over and over again.

"In view of the level of knowledge in Muhammad's day, it is inconceivable that many of the statements In the Qur'an which are connected with science could have been the work of a man. It is, moreover, perfectly legitimate, not only to regard the Qur'an as the expression of a Revelation, but also to award it a very special place, on account of the guarantee of authenticity it provides and the presence in it of scientific statements which, when studied today, appear as a challenge to explanation in human terms. " Dr. Maurice Bucaille (At the time a non Muslim...subsequent to his scientific examination of the Quran he converted to Islam)
 

Wombat

Active Member
My personal view is that the Qur'an is not the word of God. My reasons for this are several, but one is that the Bible teaches (God says) that if someone who thinks he is a prophet (eg. Muhammad) says things that a) turn people away from God (Yahweh,) and b) encourage people to chase after other gods (Allah) then that person is a false prophet, and to ignore him. This is one reason I ignore what's in the Qur'an, and don't think it's "scripture."

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." Mathew.

So.........No "fruits" from Islam? In Art, Medicince, Science, Architecture, Social Justice, Music, Manners, Poetry, Spirituality/Mysticism, Preservation of knowledge/history, Foundation of the modern University......????????

No?
Then this "tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire"..........:no:........1400+ years......no axe...no fire.

Tricky fellow this God.....to set up such clear and unequivocal criteria for the identification of ‘false prophets’ and the consequences for fruitless trees..................then to abandon and ignore same.:shrug:
 

kai

ragamuffin
The Quran is not compatible with Christianity.

In the Quran Jesus is a man he is not crucified therefore not resurrected it does not adhere to the idea of original sin and nullifies Christian belief.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
the difference I see between the Quran and Christianity is that Christianity crosses cultural divides whereas the Quran is only suitable for Arab cultures....its focus is on arabic customs and ways

Christs teachings, on the other hand, allows its adherents to be progressive, it can be applied in ANY and ALL cultures and to any time in history..to me this indicates its divine nature... like God, it is timeless and not partial to any race, culture or gender.

The bible is a book for all people whereas the Quran is only good if you are accustomed to living in the Arab world....and its for that reason that the Arabic world are a non progressive society and they will continue to live an ancient way of life, with an unchanging culture because they follow the Quran.
 
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A-ManESL

Well-Known Member
the difference I see between the Quran and Christianity is that Christianity crosses cultural divides whereas the Quran is only suitable for Arab cultures....its focus is on arabic customs and ways

Do you think that the majority of Muslims in the world follow Arab culture?
 

Wombat

Active Member
the difference I see between the Quran and Christianity is that Christianity crosses cultural divides whereas the Quran is only suitable for Arab cultures....its focus is on arabic customs and ways .

Note to self-
Must remember to let the occupants of the most populous Muslim nation on earth-,Indonesia,know that thier religion is "is only suitable for Arab cultures".

I believe that will leave some 196,281,020 people somewhat perplexed and bemused to know that Islams "focus is on arabic customs and ways".

Perhaps they will be able to "cross cultural divides" and inform the non Arab Muslims of Bangladesh 104,603,380, China 133,100,545, Ethiopia 37,161,580 and France 4,082,222.:facepalm:


Christs teachings, on the other hand, allows its adherents to be progressive it can be applied in ANY and ALL cultures and to any time in history...

And in which time, place or culture can Muslims >not< be found living thier faith?




The bible is a book for all people whereas the Quran is only good if you are accustomed to living in the Arab world....

Arabs account for about 20% of the worlds total Muslim population...the vast majority of Muslims are non Arabs.

Does this not mean that by your own logic, considering the geographic, ethnic and cultural diversity of Islam, that it is also 'divine' in origin? How can this divine diversity you describe apply to Christianity and not to Islam when they are equaly diverse and whidespread?

...and its for that reason that the Arabic world are a non progressive society and they will continue to live an ancient way of life, with an unchanging culture because they follow the Quran.

Proposed new Mosque for East London-
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Hmmmm....Nothing "progressive" or modern there among those 'Arab' East Londoners.

Google Image Result for http://tevami.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kuwait-city-morphosis-636x1024.jpg

Looks like the 'Arabs' of Kuwait have nothing "progressive" to offer either.:slap:
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I think the Koran is interesting to read (and I have read it from cover to cover), and I think it holds many truths, and some good advice for life, but I do not believe it is the inspired word of God.

It is devoid of the concept of grace, and sounds very much like the Old Testament. Just an observation.
 

mohammed_beiruti

Active Member
the difference I see between the Quran and Christianity is that Christianity crosses cultural divides whereas the Quran is only suitable for Arab cultures....its focus is on arabic customs and ways

Christs teachings, on the other hand, allows its adherents to be progressive, it can be applied in ANY and ALL cultures and to any time in history..to me this indicates its divine nature... like God, it is timeless and not partial to any race, culture or gender.

The bible is a book for all people whereas the Quran is only good if you are accustomed to living in the Arab world....and its for that reason that the Arabic world are a non progressive society and they will continue to live an ancient way of life, with an unchanging culture because they follow the Quran.

20% of the muslims around the world are Arabs.

please can you tell me why Qura'an suit the other 80% non-Arab muslims ?

shall I gaze with wonder :eek:
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Before I ever read the Qur'an I was taught that it was the work of the devil by many christian religions. It seams that the majority of christians see the Qur'an as being a negative or bad book. Do any christians thing the Qur'an is part of scripture or do they mostly think it is an evil book.

Most Christian churches did not ever have to consider the Qu'ran but usually a minister would have to take compartive religion. Whether the idea that it is of the devil comes from the teachers in the universites or private opinion will remain a mystey unless someone testifies.

I think the majority of Christians still have never read it.

It depends on how you define scripture. If scripture is defined as nay writing about God then it would be. If scripture is defined as the Bible it wouldn't be.
IMO it is the Word of God. However my view is that the Bible is a more accurate and complete book and the Qu'ran is superfluous for Christians.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
20% of the muslims around the world are Arabs.

please can you tell me why Qura'an suit the other 80% non-Arab muslims ?

shall I gaze with wonder :eek:

Maybe it works the same way that Christians view Jewish culture. Some of it isn't necessary and can be ignored. I don't doubt for a minute that Islam is much different in Indonesia than it is in Saudi Arabia. IMO it would be a huge mistake for Indonesia to take up Sharia law and go by laws written for Arabs.

The Christian church ran into this issue early in its history when Greeks, Romans and people from many other nations were being added to the church. The decision was that Christians didn't have to follow Jewish law. In fact the Apostle Paul was of the opinion that even Jews didn't have to follow Jewish law when they became Christians but many had a desire to do so anyway.
 

PVE1

Member
The reality of it is that the Qu'ran is filled with a lot of violence. Does the media portray it more significantly than it is? Yes. Is it wrong to base the entire religion on sutras that speak of war and other such topics? Yes it is. However, of the mainstream religions, you can not find such ruthless violence in any other religion (Hinduism, Baha'i, Sikh, Buddhism, especially not Christianity). The only thing close could be Judaism, and the violence in Judaism is mild compared to what's in the Qu'ran. Muhammad's ability to go to war is both scary and unnecessary, as well as his words that convince other Muslims to if the situation merits it. God is a loving God and shows mercy to those who show mercy, so violence and spirituality are incompatible. Muhammad practiced what he preached and there is enough evidence to show that he was involved in all these wars. The God of the Qu'ran is more ruthless than the God of the Torah, which is pretty bad considering the jealousy and anger YWHW displays.

However, I know that Islam has peaceful aspects to it. I know 99% of Muslims do not take the violent sutras literally or at least do not feel they need to practice such things. However, if we are to analyze all the supposed prophets who God has sent down, they are all different from Muhammad. Therefore, I wouldn't consider him a real prophet. I do know that a Muslim can follow the path of God, as anyone can. It's not a sin to be Muslim or any other religion. All that matters is how righteous you are in this life.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
"you can not find such ruthless violence in any other religion (Hinduism, Baha'i, Sikh, Buddhism, especially not Christianity). "

Did you type this with a straight face? Do you seriously believe that Christianity has never exhibited ruthless, violent behavior? Seriously?!? I suggest you read some history regarding the spread of Christianity, and it's destruction of native cultures, often to the point of (and sometimes beyond the point of) genocide.
 
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