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What Do Palestinians Want?

RocketJSquirell

RocketJSquirell

Member
Feargod

Are you particularly dense? From where do you get the idea that "The Palestinians then should search for their origins and kick the recent people
from their lands." For one thing, no one (except themselves and other Arabs) has ever asked the Arab peoples who started calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1964 (but it wasn't popular for a few decades) to go anywhere. They also know the neighboring countries from which they came. Here is some information on that.
"Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine"
https://jewishmediaagency.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/arab-immigration-to-historic-palestine-a-survey/
A survey of Arab Palestinian Names reveals their origins
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.il/2014/02/zionists-trying-to-hide-canaanite.html#disqus_thread
I can provide you with more history of the origins of the Arab Palestinians if you wish. Although it is easy enough to find should you be inclined to look.

Allow me to quote you: "Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity." Michel de Montaigne
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
RocketJSquirell said:
Feargod

Are you particularly dense? From where do you get the idea that "The Palestinians then should search for their origins and kick the recent people
from their lands." For one thing, no one (except themselves and other Arabs) has ever asked the Arab peoples who started calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1964 (but it wasn't popular for a few decades) to go anywhere. They also know the neighboring countries from which they came. Here is some information on that.
"Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine"
https://jewishmediaagency.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/arab-immigration-to-historic-palestine-a-survey/
A survey of Arab Palestinian Names reveals their origins
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.il/2014/02/zionists-trying-to-hide-canaanite.html#disqus_thread
I can provide you with more history of the origins of the Arab Palestinians if you wish. Although it is easy enough to find should you be inclined to look.

Allow me to quote you: "Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity." Michel de Montaigne
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This map was published in 1928 which clearly proves that Palestine
did exist and not Israel which is an illegal occupation which shouldn't last
for so long.

kw359982.jpg
 
rosends

rosends

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
This map was published in 1928 which clearly proves that Palestine
did exist and not Israel which is an illegal occupation which shouldn't last
for so long.

kw359982.jpg
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that map explains all the suicide bombings and attacks aimed to end the occupation of Palestine by "Jordan."
 
RocketJSquirell

RocketJSquirell

Member
feargod
Did you actually look at the map you posted. It shows the areas of settlement of the Jewish tribes. It shows Israel. Are you really that dense? By the way, the term Palestine was never used until the Romans re-named Judea, Philistena after the long extinct group of Greeks who settled along the coast of Israel near Gaza. Did you know that Philistine means invader?

If you wish to have a discussion, you are going to have to learn the basic facts.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
RocketJSquirell said:
feargod
Did you actually look at the map you posted. It shows the areas of settlement of the Jewish tribes. It shows Israel. Are you really that dense? By the way, the term Palestine was never used until the Romans re-named Judea, Philistena after the long extinct group of Greeks who settled along the coast of Israel near Gaza. Did you know that Philistine means invader?

If you wish to have a discussion, you are going to have to learn the basic facts.
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The basic facts is that the Zionists occupied the land by force, they were the invaders.
 
RocketJSquirell

RocketJSquirell

Member
feargod - I do not go to hate sites so I will not be watching or reading whatever you wish me to at "ifamericansknew.com". I do not believe in conspiracy theories. I stick to actual facts. Try it some time. It will be good for your soul.

One more thing, how is it that you came to be so closed minded, how is it that you came to be such a hater?
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
Sunstone said:
The article linked to in the OP makes for dismal -- and sobering -- reading.
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I agree. Sadly, I think its accurate. I think this thread does a fine job of demonstrating that the attitudes held by the Palestinian people are fairly common, and not just among Palestinians. This is especially true of two of the summary points. 1. That the Jewish people have no inherent rights to a national homeland in their ancestral territory and 2. That Jews are especially violent and untrustworthy. This thread offers ample evidence of this.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
FearGod said:
The basic facts is that the Zionists occupied the land by force, they were the invaders.
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How come you never mention that the majority of Israel, as originally drawn in 1947, was purchased by Zionists? That the owners freely traded land for cash?
Or that the borders expanded because Israel was attacked by neighboring countries and ALWAYS won the wars?
They did not "invade".
Tom
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
FearGod said:
This map was published in 1928 which clearly proves that Palestine
did exist and not Israel which is an illegal occupation which shouldn't last
for so long.

kw359982.jpg
Click to expand...

Seriously? I don't even... So the entire basis of whether or not an ethnic or cultural group is entitled to self-determination on a territory, in your mind, is a map labelled with that name?

images


There. Done.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
What Do Palestinians Want?........sadly it wants war, it has always wanted war, it doesn't know anything else, but war. But this also goes for Israel, they also don't know anything but war.
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
columbus said:
How come you never mention that the majority of Israel, as originally drawn in 1947, was purchased by Zionists? That the owners freely traded land for cash?
Or that the borders expanded because Israel was attacked by neighboring countries and ALWAYS won the wars?
They did not "invade".
Tom
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Ack. Israel was not "originally drawn" in 1947. The "borders" have never expanded. They have only contracted.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Shusha said:
Ack. Israel was not "originally drawn" in 1947. The "borders" have never expanded. They have only contracted.
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I presume this is a reference to ancient history. I don't put any stock in that at all.
Maybe some of the Palestinian people are related to the people before Moses. I don't know and I don't care. Scripture is not a title to anything.

I'm talking about the here and now.
Tom
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
columbus said:
I presume this is a reference to ancient history. I don't put any stock in that at all.
Maybe some of the Palestinian people are related to the people before Moses. I don't know and I don't care. Scripture is not a title to anything.

I'm talking about the here and now.
Tom
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Nope. Not at all. I NEVER use the religious claim as the claim for Jewish rights. Mine is strictly a legal argument.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Shusha said:
Nope. Not at all. I NEVER use the religious claim as the claim for Jewish rights. Mine is strictly a legal argument.
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OK
I'm confused. Israel looks bigger to me than the day it was recognized as a state. What are you saying?
Tom
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
columbus said:
OK
I'm confused. Israel looks bigger to me than the day it was recognized as a state. What are you saying?
Tom
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The problem is that you are assuming (as many do) that UNGA Resolution 181 (the Partition Plan of 1947) is the basis of Israeli sovereignty. It isn't.
 
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