Yes, that means that one doesn't know or can't know whether or not God exists. Still having trouble with the English language Willamena?
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What do people think "atheist" means?
- Thread starter ArtieE
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Well, no. It means one's decided a truth value can't be assessed.
So you didn't know how to wriggle yourself out of this one then. OK.
This is a map of Spain.
I can post many similar maps if you don't get this one.
No Willamena it means the truth values "are unknown", that we don't know. And even possibly unknowable.
Augustus
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Perhaps you didn't get it. Maybe this map of Spain is a bit easier to digest.
I mean, it's the same thing from a slightly different angle, but you surely now agree with that which you previously didn't get, yes?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Didn't answer the question. If you keep on insisting on word roots to define atheism and agnosticism, then at least admit that there's no "theos" in the word agnosticism, and there's no "pisteuo" in atheism either.
Perhaps you didn't get it. Maybe this map of Spain is a bit easier to digest.
I mean, it's the same thing from a slightly different angle, but you surely now agree with that which you previously didn't get, yes?
This is from the Atheist Community of Tulsa. Still no clue?
http://actok.org/?attachment_id=460
You didn't get that diagram either? Maybe if you managed to stay awake you would learn something?
Augustus
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If God had used an infographic instead of long-winded scripture, we wouldn't even need to have this debate
"And Moses returned from on the mount and proclaimeth, "God hath given me 10 Commandments, and I have Powerpoint slides so that thee cannot deny His majesty"
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
*opens eye a little*
*trying to see if there's anything new*
*concludes there's nothing new showing, same old charts from last year*
*yawn*
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
LOL!If God had used an infographic instead of long-winded scripture, we wouldn't even need to have this debate
"And Moses returned from on the mount and proclaimeth, "God hath given me 10 Commandments, and I have Powerpoint slides so that thee cannot deny His majesty"
I can picture it.
*this is more entertaining than the slides*
Norrin-6-
Member
"I don't believe any god exists. But I'm not claiming that -- I might be wrong."
Perfectly respectable position. You must be aware of how biases get in the way when someone has to choose how they identify himself. Generally a person doesn't go around saying he's an "agnostic atheist." While you claim this position is the atheist position, someone might see the idea of knowledge as more valuable when declaring his identity and choose to label himself agnostic for the same reason. How would you go about showing that belief is a more apt way of labeling yourself?
How many times do you think we would have to show you charts before you get it?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
I've seen them before. Nothing new. Oh, by the way, I used them myself around 5 years ago. I grew up since then.
I have never claimed that. It is the "agnostic atheist" position obviously.
Oh. So they were right five years ago but not now?
Augustus
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I like this.
Not only does it include the royal we, but also claims that charts have an inherent truth value.
Sorry, have to go now don't know when I'll be back. When hell freezes over or you guys get the point. Whichever comes first...I like this.
Not only does it include the royal we, but also claims that charts have an inherent truth value.
Norrin-6-
Member
Let me rephrase. You would gladly call an agnostic atheist an "atheist" if that was the label a person chose for himself. The rest of my post is totally in line with this.