What do you associate with the word "Pagan" ?

[Storm]

Irrelevant. Not only that but it diverts attention from the real question: how do agnosticism/atheism really differ in a practical way?

No, it's quite relevant. The answer will tell us whether you're just making things up to satisfy your superiority complex, as usual.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Here's the thing, when you come in with this judgemental attitude stating that Pagans are this way and that way and don't experience this or that do you really expect any to come forward and start opening themselves and their experiences up to you? Why would we do that when it's pretty darn clear that not only would you not believe or take us seriously, but you would just try to undermine anything we told you? Why should we subject ourselves to you and to that treatment? For what possible purpose?

We were doing just fine talking about value systems. I'm sure there's some continuity among pagan communities. That should be sufficiently impersonal thing to talk about

 

[Rakhel]

Here's the thing, when you come in with this judgemental attitude stating that Pagans are this way and that way and don't experience this or that do you really expect any to come forward and start opening themselves and their experiences up to you? Why would we do that when it's pretty darn clear that not only would you not believe or take us seriously, but you would just try to undermine anything we told you? Why should we subject ourselves to you and to that treatment? For what possible purpose?

^this

 

[Storm]

We were doing just fine talking about value systems. I'm sure there's some continuity among pagan communities. That should be sufficiently impersonal thing to talk about

You weren't.

 

[Draka]

We were doing just fine talking about value systems. I'm sure there's some continuity among pagan communities. That should be sufficiently impersonal thing to talk about

Weren't you the one saying that Pagans don't have certain true life altering experiences? That they only have happy fuzzy feelings basically? Your basic argument wasn't it? Well, how in the world would you really know? What Pagan who has had any experience would ever want to tell you? Look how you treat the ones who try.

 

[Me Myself]

If you cant listen to human beings that are straightforward talking to you, I doubt you can listen to your God when he tries to tell you anything in means way subtler than words.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Weren't you the one saying that Pagans don't have certain true life altering experiences? That they only have happy fuzzy feelings basically? Your basic argument wasn't it? Well, how in the world would you really know? What Pagan who has had any experience would ever want to tell you? Look how you treat the ones who try.

I think experiences that change who or what we trust most are the most powerful experiences of our lives. As I've said before, that in my view is a person's true god. That is what people truly worship.

 

[Me Myself]

I think experiences that change who or what we trust most are the most powerful experiences of our lives. As I've said before, that in my view is a person's true god. That is what people truly worship.

Maybe for you. My God has been with me since always. I never lost it. just have been making contact in different ways.

Not everybody gets so lost.

 

[Storm]

I think experiences that change who or what we trust most are the most powerful experiences of our lives. As I've said before, that in my view is a person's true god. That is what people truly worship.

Yeah. That wasn't the point of her post.

 

[horizon]

I think experiences that change who or what we trust most are the most powerful experiences of our lives.

What was your experience?