What do you associate with the word "Pagan" ?

[Me Myself]

Do we really need to pull out John 3:16?

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

I am not sure what you plan to say with it.

"Love each other how I loved you "

That´s all you have to do to be a Christian.

 

[Me Myself]

Why do you believe in the Christian God? Is it not because of some "high" ?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Correction, by what you think your God defines as evil.

You would not be open to know your God´s opinion on anything of today though. You are too bussy reading a document written 2000 years ago to hear anything God has to tell you today. If God tried to told you things have changed, you would be unable to hear him.

Welcome back to the conversation. i addressed this in post 61. If you feel it doesn't address this, tell me why

 

[Me Myself]

Welcome back to the conversation. i addressed this in post 61. If you feel it doesn't address this, tell me why

because it has nothing to do with what I said

 

[-Peacemaker-]

because it has nothing to do with what I said

Again, tell me why it's not applicable. That means you have to put more than 2 seconds worth of thought into crafting a repsonse

 

[Me Myself]

Again, tell me why it's not applicable. That means you have to put more than 2 seconds worth of thought into crafting a repsonse

I am telling you that you do not trust God, you trust a book.

If you can tell me on which way post 61 has anything to do with that, I am all eyes (to read )

 

[-Peacemaker-]

I am telling you that you do not trust God, you trust a book.

If you can tell me on which way post 61 has anything to do with that, I am all eyes (to read )

translation: I want to talk but not listen.

 

[horizon]

Again, tell me why it's not applicable. That means you have to put more than 2 seconds worth of thought into crafting a repsonse

They’re asking how you know what your God opinion is, and all you’ve said before is that you don’t hold value in things that don’t have a demonstrative practical change in how someone's life is lived, so the question is what was your “real” experience that you are gauging all of the pagans against.

 

[Storm]

Translation: I'm right

Well, except for the premise that it's morally superior to Just Follow Orders than consider what said orders mean. That's kinda pesky.

And you still haven't answered my question.

 

[Me Myself]

translation: I want to talk but not listen.

alternate translation: I don't want to think or I'm not capable of it

Correction translation: you dont make any sense. If you cannot make sense for yourself, then obviously no one is going to understand your point.

Seems you are evading the question. How do you know that book is a correct interpretation of what your God wants?

And again I ask, how did you came to believe in your God? wasn´t because of some "high" ?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Well, except for the premise that it's morally superior to Just Follow Orders than consider what said orders mean. That's kinda pesky.

And you still haven't answered my question.

which one?

 

[Me Myself]

So, King of the jungle´s morality comes from God because it was well thought by people he does not know 2000 years ago.

Sure, that makes sense.

 

[Storm]

which one?

How many pagans have you known?

 

[Me Myself]

Actually that is one of the things I associate more with Pagan.

It is a more direct relationship with God. There are no intermediate texts that were given to someone else. Or sure, they can be, but the true guidance comes personally.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Back to what originally started this conversation. Everything response from the self described pagans in this thread only confirms my claim that this is simply glorified agnosticism.

 

[Me Myself]

Back to what originally started this conversation. Everything response from the self described pagans in this thread only confirms my claim that this is simply glorified agnosticism.

And this exemplifies my claim that you are not really thinking.

 

[Draka]

Here's the thing, when you come in with this judgemental attitude stating that Pagans are this way and that way and don't experience this or that do you really expect any to come forward and start opening themselves and their experiences up to you? Why would we do that when it's pretty darn clear that not only would you not believe or take us seriously, but you would just try to undermine anything we told you? Why should we subject ourselves to you and to that treatment? For what possible purpose?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

How many pagans have you known?

Irrelevant. Not only that but it diverts attention from the real question: how do agnosticism/atheism really differ in a practical way from paganism?

 

[Storm]

Back to what originally started this conversation. Everything response from the self described pagans in this thread only confirms my claim that this is simply glorified agnosticism.

Right. Thought and ethics are incompatible with your concept of faith. I'll pass, thanks.

Fortunately, you fool nobody but yourself.

And you still haven't answered my question. Who wants to bet the answer is 0?

 

[horizon]

Back to what originally started this conversation. Everything response from the self described pagans in this thread only confirms my claim that this is simply glorified agnosticism.

[FONT=&quot]Really? I gave you a pretty specific example.[/FONT]