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What do you feel is wrong with atheism?

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DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I've noticed that some Athiest seem to be "more" obsessed with God than believers..I suppose there is nothing wrong with that..But I feel sory for them.

Not in a pathetic way...I personally swing like in the middle of the night? OH MY GOD what if there is NO God!(nothingness blackness ...my rotting corpse with no soul)

I think most Athiest have "soul" in the now..caring and concerned about people..RIGHT NOW!..Same as "some" believers..We are not all that different..IMHO.

Love

Dallas
 

GadFly

Active Member
Let's see, mball took #16 and I did #17 and this is #18 things I do not like about atheism; however, not every atheist is guilty of what I do not like about atheism.
18. I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism. Especially, I don't like it while they enjoy the freedoms that American democracy offers while they blame American democracy for causing the problems of war and poverty in the world on America.
 

McBell

Unbound
Let's see, mball took #16 and I did #17 and this is #18 things I do not like about atheism; however, not every atheist is guilty of what I do not like about atheism.
18. I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism. Especially, I don't like it while they enjoy the freedoms that American democracy offers while they blame American democracy for causing the problems of war and poverty in the world on America.
What is the difference between communist government and a theocracy?
Do you support those who would make the USA a theocracy?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Let's see, mball took #16 and I did #17 and this is #18 things I do not like about atheism; however, not every atheist is guilty of what I do not like about atheism.
18. I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism. Especially, I don't like it while they enjoy the freedoms that American democracy offers while they blame American democracy for causing the problems of war and poverty in the world on America.

Yeah! How dare they look at things objectively and come to their own conclusions!? Don't they know that everyone should hate all forms of communism simply because it's communism? I mean, come on, everyone knows that all communism and socialism is bad to the core! There's no need to think about it, we are constantly told how bad these ideas are, so all we have to do is believe everything we're told without questioning it, and without researching these things for ourselves!
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism.

What about believers who advocate communism? Or atheists who advocate democracy?
And like I said earlier, communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, not all atheists and communists, and not all communists are atheists. There are Catholic and Muslim Marxists, for example.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
I don't think there's anything wrong with atheism.

At times it seems the only sensible reaction when what you see of religion is Religion Gone Wild.

Been there, done that myself. ;)
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
No, I really do not understand. I only listed those things I believe to be problems with atheism. These are the particular qualities seen in specific atheists. However, I recognize that not each atheist share all these qualities equally. But I do not understand the resentment, if there actually is any, of my listing what I do not appreciate about atheism. Where did I go wrong?
GadFly
There is no resentment, but I admit I am often hasty to make my point without properly attempting to grasp other chap's perspectives.

Here is what may be the problem. You appear to be taking the term 'atheism', used in the OP, as referring to a collective of people, practices or tendencies. Whereas I would take the word to refer only to the the status of a person's belief in God.

Do you know what I mean?
 

GadFly

Active Member
There is no resentment, but I admit I am often hasty to make my point without properly attempting to grasp other chap's perspectives.

Here is what may be the problem. You appear to be taking the term 'atheism', used in the OP, as referring to a collective of people, practices or tendencies. Whereas I would take the word to refer only to the the status of a person's belief in God.

Do you know what I mean?
No sir, I do not know what you mean. I do not think you know what you mean. The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism. Atheism by definition does not believe in God. What is your point? You appear not only to act in hast, you don't seem to grasp your own perspective, let alone another chap's perspective.

Your logic, I can already tell, is absurd. If atheism does not refer to a collective of people to whom does it refer? Certainly not to a person with degrees of belief in God. You do, you think the people in this forum are stupid, especially do you think theist are ignorant? Well, you'll find out they are very smart but they can not answer to your satisfaction silly questions.

You not only miss use the English language, you miss use the information you gather from honest participants on this thread to begin another thread, which is the unforgivable sin of intellectual honesty, especially when the information is mine.

If you had just asked, I would have been happy to have shared anything I posted in this forum with you. In my list one of the items I present is that I do not like the fact that atheism has an inadequate bases upon which to determine ethical behavior. You should respond to that item before you write any more threads. If you are attempting to left up the standards of your beliefs, that would be a good starting place.
GadFly
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Hey, Gadfly.

The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism.
I'm sorry if I have confused you. The status of a person's belief can be one of non-belief i.e. in regards to God an atheist is in a state (his or her status) of disbelief.

Gadfly said:
If atheism does not refer to a collective of people to whom does it refer?
Generally, it does not refer to a whom. This was my point. We may have diverged here. I would use the word atheism to be the state of non-belief. I accept this is not the only acceptable understanding of the term and I am willing to discuss it further.

Gadfly said:
You do, you think the people in this forum are stupid, especially do you think theist are ignorant?
Although it is not relevant to the discussion, no. I'm not sure what gives you this impression.

Gadfly said:
You not only miss use the English language, you miss use the information you gather from honest participants on this thread to begin another thread, which is the unforgivable sin of intellectual honesty, especially when the information is mine.
I'm not aware of any mis-usage of language or information. If I had known that replicating a sentence from one of your posts would have caused offense I would not have done so. I did not reference you in the OP of the other thread because I was worried you might interpret that as an attack.

Gadfly said:
If you had just asked, I would have been happy to have shared anything I posted in this forum with you. In my list one of the items I present is that I do not like the fact that atheism has an inadequate bases upon which to determine ethical behavior. You should respond to that item before you write any more threads.
I'll respond to that once I am sure I know what you mean by it.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism. Atheism by definition does not believe in God.

I just had to isolate this. How do you throw out those to statements right next to each other and claim they are both true? Do you not realize that they are completely contradictory? The status of a person's belief in God (the existence or non-existence of this belief) does not by definition in anyway relate to atheism (the non-existent status of a belief in God). Then you say yourself that the status of atheism's beleif in God is that it's non-existent.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
All I want to add?..Is I've met a lot of athiest here and my brother is an athiest /agnostic.And many of them are as nice as me. :D

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Oh...and my husband used to believe that aliens wrote the Bible so that humans didnt get depressed and kill themsleves..And sometimes he was more Christlike than me..

Love

Dallas
 

Missionary

New Member
I think the problem with atheism is it causes some to forget their divine heritage. We are all children of a loving Heavenly Father. I respect the opinion of others and their right to practise religion according to their own conscience, but for those who are atheist and feel their is something more, look to Christ. I know he is our redeemer and a light to the world.
 

GadFly

Active Member
I just had to isolate this. How do you throw out those to statements right next to each other and claim they are both true? Do you not realize that they are completely contradictory? The status of a person's belief in God (the existence or non-existence of this belief) does not by definition in anyway relate to atheism (the non-existent status of a belief in God). Then you say yourself that the status of atheism's beleif in God is that it's non-existent.
Mball you spend too much time worrying over very unimportant things like the use of words. We all have a general idea what an atheist believes and what atheism is. Do you really care so much about every crossed tee and dotted eye? Christians have an old saying: do not gage at a gnat and swallow a camel (New Testament).:cigar:
 

McBell

Unbound
Mball you spend too much time worrying over very unimportant things like the use of words. We all have a general idea what an atheist believes and what atheism is. Do you really care so much about every crossed tee and dotted eye? Christians have an old saying: do not gage at a gnat and swallow a camel (New Testament).:cigar:
Actually it is supposed to be "strained out" the gnat.

Congrats on the pointing to the most blatant mistranslation in the KJV Bible.
 
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