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Richard Dawkins
what is wrong with atheism- it is a bunch of misguided bigots who have found the exact thing they seek- a cosmos without a "Kosmocrater
What is the difference between communist government and a theocracy?Let's see, mball took #16 and I did #17 and this is #18 things I do not like about atheism; however, not every atheist is guilty of what I do not like about atheism.
18. I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism. Especially, I don't like it while they enjoy the freedoms that American democracy offers while they blame American democracy for causing the problems of war and poverty in the world on America.
Let's see, mball took #16 and I did #17 and this is #18 things I do not like about atheism; however, not every atheist is guilty of what I do not like about atheism.
18. I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism. Especially, I don't like it while they enjoy the freedoms that American democracy offers while they blame American democracy for causing the problems of war and poverty in the world on America.
I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism.
Werent the early Christians communists?I do not like it when atheist will inadvertently or deliberately denounce democracy in favor of communism.
There is no resentment, but I admit I am often hasty to make my point without properly attempting to grasp other chap's perspectives.No, I really do not understand. I only listed those things I believe to be problems with atheism. These are the particular qualities seen in specific atheists. However, I recognize that not each atheist share all these qualities equally. But I do not understand the resentment, if there actually is any, of my listing what I do not appreciate about atheism. Where did I go wrong?
GadFly
No sir, I do not know what you mean. I do not think you know what you mean. The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism. Atheism by definition does not believe in God. What is your point? You appear not only to act in hast, you don't seem to grasp your own perspective, let alone another chap's perspective.There is no resentment, but I admit I am often hasty to make my point without properly attempting to grasp other chap's perspectives.
Here is what may be the problem. You appear to be taking the term 'atheism', used in the OP, as referring to a collective of people, practices or tendencies. Whereas I would take the word to refer only to the the status of a person's belief in God.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm sorry if I have confused you. The status of a person's belief can be one of non-belief i.e. in regards to God an atheist is in a state (his or her status) of disbelief.The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism.
Generally, it does not refer to a whom. This was my point. We may have diverged here. I would use the word atheism to be the state of non-belief. I accept this is not the only acceptable understanding of the term and I am willing to discuss it further.Gadfly said:If atheism does not refer to a collective of people to whom does it refer?
Although it is not relevant to the discussion, no. I'm not sure what gives you this impression.Gadfly said:You do, you think the people in this forum are stupid, especially do you think theist are ignorant?
I'm not aware of any mis-usage of language or information. If I had known that replicating a sentence from one of your posts would have caused offense I would not have done so. I did not reference you in the OP of the other thread because I was worried you might interpret that as an attack.Gadfly said:You not only miss use the English language, you miss use the information you gather from honest participants on this thread to begin another thread, which is the unforgivable sin of intellectual honesty, especially when the information is mine.
I'll respond to that once I am sure I know what you mean by it.Gadfly said:If you had just asked, I would have been happy to have shared anything I posted in this forum with you. In my list one of the items I present is that I do not like the fact that atheism has an inadequate bases upon which to determine ethical behavior. You should respond to that item before you write any more threads.
The status of a person's belief in God does not by definition in anyway possible relate to atheism. Atheism by definition does not believe in God.
Mball you spend too much time worrying over very unimportant things like the use of words. We all have a general idea what an atheist believes and what atheism is. Do you really care so much about every crossed tee and dotted eye? Christians have an old saying: do not gage at a gnat and swallow a camel (New Testament).:cigar:I just had to isolate this. How do you throw out those to statements right next to each other and claim they are both true? Do you not realize that they are completely contradictory? The status of a person's belief in God (the existence or non-existence of this belief) does not by definition in anyway relate to atheism (the non-existent status of a belief in God). Then you say yourself that the status of atheism's beleif in God is that it's non-existent.
I think the problem with atheism is it causes some to forget their divine heritage. .
Actually it is supposed to be "strained out" the gnat.Mball you spend too much time worrying over very unimportant things like the use of words. We all have a general idea what an atheist believes and what atheism is. Do you really care so much about every crossed tee and dotted eye? Christians have an old saying: do not gage at a gnat and swallow a camel (New Testament).:cigar: