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What do you gain from criticism of a religious teaching you do not follow or believe in?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
But they are empty threats, as you said yourself, and then claimed were NOT your problem. So why all the reactive bluster?

As i said, the threats were made... And what bluster?

Try walking a mile in my shoes before resorting to petty insults.

Perhaps you are confusing your own reaction to art you don't consider art.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Fair is fair, but mischaracterizing such as
what Ive quited you doing, is not.

Real issues need no falsification.
But why the need to make critique of faiths you dont believe in or follow your self?
What do you get out of it?

Does it feel bad when you are asked those easy questions?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
As i said, the threats were made... And what bluster?

Try walking a mile in my shoes before resorting to petty insults.
Where are you seeing insults? I'm just trying to understand your contradictory responses.

If I threaten to shoot you with my invisibility cannon, and you know there is no such thing as an "invisibility cannon", how is my threat, actually a threat?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Religious people proselytize because they think they're helping people.

@Twilight Hue tells people that things they believe are "clearly ridiculous and fantastically absurd" because he think's he's helping people.

Both are forms of proselytizing. To say the latter is not is hypocrisy.
Hey if a person wants to religiously believe the earth is big a ball of hardened green play dough brought in by Gumby and Pokey, I'd say knock yourself out.

However I think it would be a disservice for nobody to ever be straightforward at times and point a few things out just because someone might feel a bit butt hurt about it. ;0]
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Hey if a person wants to religiously believe the earth is big a ball of hardened green play dough brought in by Gumby and Pokey, I'd say knock yourself out.

However I think it would be a disservice for nobody to ever be straightforward at times and point a few things out just because someone might feel a bit butt hurt about it. ;0]
Aren't people free to believe what ever religious faith they want? You want to dictate what is "right" to believe in? Who gave you that autority?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Aren't people free to believe what ever religious faith they want? You want to dictate what is "right" to believe in? Who gave you that autority?
What authority?

That would be on you if you want to think that.

I just am not going to humor and go along with people who believe in completely ridiculous nonsense.

If they want to keep believing in ridiculous things, I'm not gonna stop them.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
But doesn't everyone do that? Otherwise why do we even vote? Aren't we voting for political representatives? With the intent that they represent our ideas about how government should be conducted?

The problem, of course, is that way too many of us are now voting not for politicians that will further the well-being of the nation as a whole, but that will serve only and exclusively our own agendas.

Yes, but the main thing is not to favor one religion over another and give one special power. If we favor freedom, we should give people freedom and if others don't like something, then they shouldn't do it, but the problem is when someone limits the rights of all because it's something they personally don't believe in. Many folks who say they want freedom mean only the freedoms they believe in.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What authority?

That would be on you if you want to think that.

I just am not going to humor and go along with people who believe in completely ridiculous nonsense.

If they want to keep believing in ridiculous things, I'm not gonna stop them.
Just because it is ridiculous to you, why would it be wrong for others to believe it?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Where are you seeing insults? I'm just trying to understand your contradictory responses.

If I threaten to shoot you with my invisibility cannon, and you know there is no such thing as an "invisibility cannon", how is my threat, actually a threat?

Nope, you are just trying your usual windup and i ain't playing at reactive bluster.

And again, the threat has been made, what do you not understand about that?
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Where are you seeing insults? I'm just trying to understand your contradictory responses.

If I threaten to shoot you with my invisibility cannon, and you know there is no such thing as an "invisibility cannon", how is my threat, actually a threat?


It’s not nice threatening anybody with anything, however insubstantial they may consider the threat to be. I don’t think threatening non believers with hell is a good way for religious people to behave. Unfortunately, some do, and so get the rest of us a bad name, just as a handful of particularly belligerent atheists get other atheists a bad name.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
What authority?

That would be on you if you want to think that.

I just am not going to humor and go along with people who believe in completely ridiculous nonsense.

If they want to keep believing in ridiculous things, I'm not gonna stop them.


Didn’t you vote for Donald Trump? I only ask because, from my perspective, believing that was a rational thing to do must have required you swallowing copious amounts of ridiculous nonsense.

Life’s all about perspectives.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Yes, but the main thing is not to favor one religion over another and give one special power. If we favor freedom, we should give people freedom and if others don't like something, then they shouldn't do it, but the problem is when someone limits the rights of all because it's something they personally don't believe in. Many folks who say they want freedom mean only the freedoms they believe in.
Yes. "Freedom" has becomes selfishness. I tend to blame commercial advertising, but it's really the result of a whole lot of things. We've developed into a culture controlled by greed and selfishness and it's spreading throughout the world. The 'great experiment' in freedom and democracy has been kidnapped and raped by capitalism, and we've all just let it happen.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
And again, the threat has been made, what do you not understand about that?
I don't understand how it's actually a threat to you, as opposed to being nonsensical gibberish. And I'm noticing, here, that you don't seem to understand it, yourself. Because you certainly aren't explaining it.
 
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