What do you think about Quranists?

[Twilight Hue]

Everyone has been. Read up. BUT, no one can beat the secular wars ever in any kind of history. Only 7% all wars in the history of mankind (recorded) were religiously motivated. And Christians have been knocking the s as you phrased it for a long long time as well mate and they have been murdering others since God only knows.

Thus, your passing comment is bias and irrelevant to the topic.

Not when... wait for it.. .. it actually has been centuries .

 

[firedragon]

Not when... wait for it.. .. it actually has been centuries .

Read that post once more. At least.

 

[Ebionite]

Okay, please tell me what Israel was supposed to do on October 8.

You mean Edom? The people of Israel lost their identity in the diaspora. The should have owned the consequences of their actions.

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Cohen is not the only one, as journalists Mehdi Hasan and Dina Sayedahmed record in The Intercept.

The Israel-Hamas war has an important lesson for world leaders - CNBC TV18

As annoying as it may be to negotiate with a self-righteous secular democrat, the concessions are most likely to be less expensive than the death and displacement of thousands of innocent and unsuspecting masses.

www.cnbctv18.com

 

[stevecanuck]

You mean Edom? The people of Israel lost their identity in the diaspora. The should have owned the consequences of their actions.

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Cohen is not the only one, as journalists Mehdi Hasan and Dina Sayedahmed record in The Intercept.

The Israel-Hamas war has an important lesson for world leaders - CNBC TV18

As annoying as it may be to negotiate with a self-righteous secular democrat, the concessions are most likely to be less expensive than the death and displacement of thousands of innocent and unsuspecting masses.

www.cnbctv18.com

I repeat: Okay, please tell me what Israel was supposed to do on October 8.

 

[Ebionite]

I repeat: Okay, please tell me what Israel was supposed to do on October 8.

Keep avoiding the issue of Edom vs Israel.

 

[stevecanuck]

Keep avoiding the issue of Edom vs Israel.

Bye.

 

[stevecanuck]

I have yet to see any Israel-basher here suggest what they should have done on October 8. Not. One.

 

[Muffled]

The apocrypha have no provenance or a chain of narrations. So they can never in your life be compared with ahadith.

I believe I didn't. I just see them as potentially having false information and need to be read with scepticism.

 

[firedragon]

I believe I didn't. I just see them as potentially having false information and need to be read with scepticism.

Irrelevant. As I said, you have to look at provenance.

Tell me. Do you have a named, biographer, verified chain of narrations that you could scrutinize for your "apocrypha" like the ahadith do? Please don't just thrown in words like skepticism arbitrarily. Reply to the question. No muslim in history have ever taken ahadith without skepticism. So rather than making some strewman, respond to the question.

Do you have a named, biographed, verified chain of narrations that you could scrutinize for your "apocrypha" like the ahadith do?

 

[firedragon]

I believe I didn't. I just see them as potentially having false information and need to be read with scepticism.

Your statement was "I thinks hadiths can be treated the way protestants treat the apochrypha:".

No way. You are absolutely mistaken. At least ahadith has a chain of narrations that muslims scrutinized for many centuries. Apocrypha doesn't.

 

[paarsurrey]

I have yet to see any Israel-basher here suggest what they should have done on October 8. Not. One.

What did one do on that day, please, right?

Regards

 

[Muffled]

Irrelevant. As I said, you have to look at provenance.

Tell me. Do you have a named, biographer, verified chain of narrations that you could scrutinize for your "apocrypha" like the ahadith do? Please don't just thrown in words like skepticism arbitrarily. Reply to the question. No muslim in history have ever taken ahadith without skepticism. So rather than making some strewman, respond to the question.

Do you have a named, biographed, verified chain of narrations that you could scrutinize for your "apocrypha" like the ahadith do?

I don't know but probably not. However from what I read there are indications that the authors of the hadiths are not who they claim to be.

 

[firedragon]

authors of the hadiths are not who they claim to be.

from what I read

What did you read? Can you give the book directly?

 

[ChieftheCef]

Actually Evil. Want me to explain? I have to put they argument together

 

[Muffled]

What did you read? Can you give the book directly?

I don't remember.

 

[Jedster]

What did one do on that day, please, right?

Regards

So you have no answer to @stevecanuck 's statement, which proves his point.

 

[firedragon]

I don't remember.

Brother. It's absolutely irresponsible to make such a strong assertion based on something you claim to have read but you "don't remember" what you even read. You should have some epistemic responsibility.

 

[firedragon]

So you have no answer to @stevecanuck 's statement, which proves his point.

I am interested to know what your point is.

 

[Jedster]

I am interested to know what your point is.

Well, I am sure you can figure it out.

 

[firedragon]

Well, I am sure you can figure it out.

That was a request. But no worries. Thank you.