What do you think of smoking ?

[FearGod]

The harmful effects of smoking on the body and overall health of smokers presented in the list below, only begins to convey some of the short and long term side effects of smoking cigarettes.
Quitting makes sense for many reasons but simply put: smoking kills and the effects of second hand smoke are also bad for the health of those around you.
Harmful Health Effects of Smoking

• Every year hundreds of thousands of people around the world die from diseases caused by smoking cigarettes - Smoking KILLS.
• One in two lifetime smokers will die from their habit. Half of these deaths will occur in middle age.
• Tobacco smoke also contributes to a number of cancers.
• The mixture of nicotine and carbon monoxide in each cigarette you smoke temporarily increases your heart rate and blood pressure, straining your heart and blood vessels.
• This can cause heart attacks and stroke. It slows your blood flow, cutting off oxygen to your feet and hands. Some smokers end up having their limbs
  amputated.
• Tar coats your lungs like soot in a chimney and causes cancer. A 20-a-day smoker breathes in up to a full cup (210 g) of tar in a year.
• Changing to low-tar cigarettes does not help because smokers usually take deeper puffs and hold the smoke in for longer, dragging the tar deeper into their lungs.
• Carbon monoxide robs your muscles, brain and body tissue of oxygen, making your whole body and especially your heart work harder. Over time, your airways swell up and let less air into your lungs.
• Smoking causes disease and is a slow way to die. The strain of smoking effects on the body often causes years of suffering.
• Emphysema for example is an illness that slowly rots your lungs. People with emphysema often get bronchitis again and again, and suffer lung and heart failure.
• Lung cancer from smoking is caused by the tar in tobacco smoke.
• Men who smoke are ten times more likely to die from lung cancer than non-smokers.
• Heart disease and strokes are also more common among smokers than non-smokers.
• Smoking causes fat deposits to narrow and block blood vessels which leads to heart attack.
• Smoking causes around one in five deaths from heart disease.
• In younger people, three out of four deaths from heart disease are due to smoking
• Cigarette smoking during pregnancy increases the risk of low birth weight, prematurity, spontaneous abortion, and perinatal mortality in humans, which has been referred to as the fetal tobacco syndrome.

Reference : Health Effects of Smoking Cigarettes

The discussion,

Do smokers know that smoking may end their life with suffering of illness ?
Even though that manufacturers are forced to add a warning note that
smoking may cause a painful death,but still there are many smokers.

 

[Me Myself]

Useless and very anyoning when people around me do it.

Even when they ask they know it is going to literaly stink for me and they also know I will look "bad" if I say no.

If you are going to smoke, do it with other smokers, and dont even ask a stranger or anyone who is not a close friend if you can smoke, because you are really not giving him much of a choice.

 

[Me Myself]

BTW, I need to put this

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Extreme Anti-Smoking Ad - YouTube

 

[Valjean]

Socially, it's becoming the hallmark of the underclass.

 

[Breathe]

I see it like a disgusting, uncivilized habit, much like drinking or using recreational drugs (save caffeine).

I know, I know, miserable, sober me.

 

[apophenia]

I see it like a disgusting, uncivilized habit, much like drinking or using recreational drugs (save caffeine).

I know, I know, miserable, sober me.

Just curious, why is caffeine given an exemption ?

( Let me guess ... it is your stimulant drug of choice ?)

Give me one good reason why caffeine is in a different class to chewing coca leaf.


Regarding tobacco - the rubbish on the market is an extremely toxic chemical cocktail, thanks to the chemicals added by tobacco companies. Some cigarettes are 1/3 by weight added chemicals.

I have smoked organic homegrown tobacco, and it is an entirely different product and experience. The indigenous American people didn't have an addiction problem with it, and only used it occasionally for shamanic purposes.

I find that interesting.

 

[Breathe]

Just curious, why is caffeine given an exemption ?

It's effects are quite mild, and it doesn't stink like **** and bother me when I'm walking by or on a bus or whatever. I especially don't appreciate being an unwilling participant in a hot box.

( Let me guess ... it is your stimulant drug of choice ?)

Ha, nice assumption but no. Try not to assume that's why next time. I drink decaffeinated drinks, my tea is included in that list when I found out you can buy decaf for the same price as regular tea.

Give me one good reason why caffeine is in a different class to chewing coca leaf.

I'm allowed to hold my own opinion, so no. If you have a problem, tough. I really do not care if you don't like it. I don't have to like something just because you don't like that I don't like it.

Regarding tobacco - the rubbish on the market is an extremely toxic chemical cocktail, thanks to the chemicals added by tobacco companies. Some cigarettes are 1/3 by weight added chemicals.

I am aware of how much crud they put in tobacco.

I have smoked organic homegrown tobacco, and it is an entirely different product and experience. The indigenous American people didn't have an addiction problem with it, and only used it occasionally for shamanic purposes.

I have no problem with the spiritual or medical consumption of harder substances. I said recreational.

 

[Panda]

I just don't like the smell. It is a horrid smell I can't stand it.

 

[helpmeplease]

It's legal get over it.

 

[Pink Top Hat]

What do you think of smoking?

Big profit business that kills people.

Not unlike the USA.

 

[helpmeplease]

How many people are alive now after not smoking for the last 120yrs? How many people are alive now after quitting smoking 90yrs ago? I seen it said on this very forum that GOD decided to kill people when Adam ate an apple, as far as I'm aware there aren't any exceptions.

 

[Vultar]

It is interesting to see how much people eat up the anti smoking propaganda.

As with everything, moderation is the key. Yes, someone who smokes an extreme amount will have issues.

Let's look at some of the interesting points about smoking.
1. The number of smokers having issues has increased with the size of the warning labels (anti placebo effect)
2. More non-smokers now get lung cancer then smokers (smokers have greater protection from air pollution due to smoking)
3. Non-smokers have a greater chance of passing out and death then smokers during airplane decompression (I was a pilot and this was tested with pilot trainees - all the non-smokers passed out first)
4. Firefighters that are smokers have a less chance of getting smoke inhalation while fighting fires.
5. Dentists that are smokers live much longer then their non-smoking counterparts (stress reduction)
6. Japan with the highest percentage of smokers also has the highest life expectancy in the world

Take a minute and try to name smokers that lived to be 100 years old
George Burns, Bob Hope etc.

Now try the same thing with obese people...

Now think of the effect that restricting smoking has caused.
1. Malls failing
2. Restaurants failing
3. Bars failing
4. Theatres failing
Basically, restricting smoking has been the root cause for much of the socia-economic collapse that can been seen thoughout the world due to the smokers being restricted so not spending their money on entertainment etc.

Just so you see the other side of the coin...

BTW: I smoke 5 cigarettes a day (a nice healthy amount )

 

[Bob Dixon]

Now think of the effect that restricting smoking has caused.
1. Malls failing
2. Restaurants failing
3. Bars failing
4. Theatres failing
Basically, restricting smoking has been the root cause for much of the socia-economic collapse that can been seen thoughout the world due to the smokers being restricted so not spending their money on entertainment etc.

Until you cite sources, I won't take you seriously.

As for me, I think smoking tobacco is no good. It's a bad habit and it's unhealthy.
But it should be allowed in certain places, sure. Just because some don't like it, doesn't mean no one should have the right. Again, in some places.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't understand the appeal of tobacco, or how people manage to start up the habit, but what people do with their own bodies is their own business, provided they understand the potential risks and consequences.

What doesn't make sense to me is the fact that certain substances are illegal and demonized by society, yet equally bad if not worse substances are not only legal but heavily marketed and celebrated by society.

 

[beenie]

It's one of the few habits that negatively impacts others around them. I agree: if they ask if they can light up, you really don't have a choice, and you end up ingesting their smoke and smelling like an ashtray in the process.

It's gross, smells gross, not to mention unhealthy. I've seen the lungs of even a casual smoker, and it ain't a pretty picture.

If you want to smoke and harm yourself, I can't stop you; don't take me down with you, and don't ask to smoke in front of me. I'm an athlete and very particular about what goes in my system. Plus I have allergies that when triggered by smoke, causes wheezing and irritation...so no thanks.

My $.02

 

[beenie]

I don't understand the appeal of tobacco, or how people manage to start up the habit, but what people do with their own bodies is their own business, provided they understand the potential risks and consequences.

What doesn't make sense to me is the fact that certain substances are illegal and demonized by society, yet equally bad if not worse substances are not only legal but heavily marketed and celebrated by society.

Good point, FH. I don't get the double standard either.

 

[Storm]

That's odd - none of my friends have the slightest issue asking me not to smoke around them.

 

[Me Myself]

That's odd - none of my friends have the slightest issue asking me not to smoke around them.

1- They are your friends.

2-If they even do it with strangers and it doesn´t become even in the sligthest a social inconvinience for their first impressions, maybe your society is just cooler than most of others in this regard

 

[Pink Top Hat]

what about the babies and children of smokers who have no one to speak out for them as their parents smoke in the home

at what age does the child attain it's rights?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have no issues with people who want to smoke yet courtesy should be practiced among those who don't care for the activity.