What do you think of the Moon hoaxers

[Iti oj]

After the WW2 No country in the world has ever wanted to attack the US, neither directly nor indirectly. why? because it would be a suicide. So the Russians have always tried to spread the Communist ideology, but without daring provoke the US .


do you really think that the Russians were so self-destructive to attack the US?

so they developed and pointed nukes at us for laughs?

 

[Nietzsche]

After the WW2 No country in the world has ever wanted to attack the US, neither directly nor indirectly. why? because it would be a suicide. So the Russians have always tried to spread the Communist ideology, but without daring provoke the US .


do you really think that the Russians were so self-destructive to attack the US?

Your utter failure in understanding geopolitics makes me want to strangle something.

 

[Iti oj]

Besides why would russia fear us after ww2. It was as.much Russias victory as ours

 

[Revoltingest]

Your utter failure in understanding geopolitics makes me want to strangle something.

A lotta that going around....

 

[Nietzsche]

Besides why would russia fear us after ww2. It was as.much Russias victory as ours

In the interest of history, Russia and America had been eying one another as rivals when it became clear than the only two states to truly win WW2 were going to be us(America) and the Soviet Union. Britain, France, the rest of Europe & Asia were all going to break even at best, but America and the Soviets were going to be vastly increased in regards to power and power-projection.

Our spheres of influence overlapped and because of that we were destined to become rivals. The Russians knew about our atomic-bomb project as well, as they'd infiltrated it with spies from its very inception, and were working on their own bomb. They'd get one in 48'. There were no "middling powers" anymore that could turn the tide against one side or another, that's what nuclear weapons do. If you have them, you cannot be ignored. If you don't, you will be ignored.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

After the WW2 No country in the world has ever wanted to attack the US, neither directly nor indirectly. why? because it would be a suicide. So the Russians have always tried to spread the Communist ideology, but without daring provoke the US .


do you really think that the Russians were so self-destructive to attack the US?

Yes. That was the whole point of the cold war that they were in a pissing contest with the USA. The USA was just as guilty but if Russia had no interest in engaging with the US then why did they put nuclear missiles in Cuba?

 

[gnomon]

Moon-hoaxers are the bane of my existence. My favorite video has to be where Buzz Aldrin just decks one of those morons.

Absolutely.

The one time in which I found someone through sheer frustration reacting in a manner I could imagine myself acting.

The moon hoaxers are idiots.

 

[Nietzsche]

Yes. That was the whole point of the cold war that they were in a pissing contest with the USA. The USA was just as guilty but if Russia had no interest in engaging with the US then why did they put nuclear missiles in Cuba?

Because we had, earlier, placed nuclear weapons in Turkey. The Soviet Union placing them in Cuba was a response to that, so in a way, the Cuban Missile Crisis was quite a bit more our(USA's) fault than the Soviet's.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes. That was the whole point of the cold war that they were in a pissing contest with the USA. The USA was just as guilty but if Russia had no interest in engaging with the US then why did they put nuclear missiles in Cuba?

tell me what Cuba has to do with the US.
And besides, they didn't use them because there is an abyssal difference between planning to do something and doing it actually.


besides...we are going off-topic here. But talking about the Russians is useful...because even the Russians debunk the Moon hoaxers

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Because we had, earlier, placed nuclear weapons in Turkey. The Soviet Union placing them in Cuba was a response to that, so in a way, the Cuban Missile Crisis was quite a bit more our(USA's) fault than the Soviet's.

In many ways yes. I don't deny it. There was bad blood between the two countries ever since WWII and both had ego complexes and nuclear weapons. It was bound to happen.

tell me what Cuba has to do with the US.
And besides, they didn't use them because there is an abyssal difference between planning to do something and doing it actually.


besides...we are going off-topic here. But talking about the Russians is useful...because even the Russians debunk the Moon hoaxers

What does Cuba have to do with the US? Really? I assume you are joking.

But anyway yes off topic. I think it will be fairly unanimous in favor that moon hoaxers are full of it though. Its one of the more out there theories that was far more popular back in the 70's.

 

[Estro Felino]

In many ways yes. I don't deny it. There was bad blood between the two countries ever since WWII and both had ego complexes and nuclear weapons. It was bound to happen.

What does Cuba have to do with the US? Really? I assume you are joking.
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hem...no I am not. what did they have in common then? besides geographic proximity

 

[Monk Of Reason]

hem...no I am not. what did they have in common then? besides geographical proximity

The geographic proximity is exactly the problem. A nuclear launch from Cuba could hit the us within minutes. Millions and millions of people could die in minutes in surprise nuclear attack without the ability to respond. Its a lot like putting a gun to our head. Or rather a kneecap I guess. Though its already been mentioned in this thread that the US had put missiles in Turkey first.

 

[Estro Felino]

The geographic proximity is exactly the problem. A nuclear launch from Cuba could hit the us within minutes. Millions and millions of people could die in minutes in surprise nuclear attack without the ability to respond. Its a lot like putting a gun to our head. Or rather a kneecap I guess. Though its already been mentioned in this thread that the US had put missiles in Turkey first.

okay...nukes can always be used for defensive purposes.
I am totally convinced that the Russians would have never attacked the US. No country would ever do it.
Speaking of the 9 11, no foreign country was behind the attacks. so...

 

[Monk Of Reason]

okay...nukes can always be used for defensive purposes.
I am totally convinced that the Russians would have never attacked the US. No country would ever do it.
Speaking of the 9 11, no foreign country was behind the attacks. so...

You are free to keep living that delusion. I don't think any country would attack us right now. That much I agree. But back then it wasn't so clear and it was a very real threat. The US wasn't a superpower till around WWII.

 

[Iti oj]

hem...no I am not. what did they have in common then? besides geographic proximity

Never hear of the cuban missile crisis? And no this isn't off topic.

 

[Iti oj]

hem...no I am not. what did they have in common then? besides geographic proximity

This question demonstrats you know nothing on these topics and are posting out of ignorance

 

[Estro Felino]

This question demonstrats you know nothing on these topics and are posting out of ignorance

Yes, I do know everything about the Bay of the Pigs invasion.
The problem is that in the US, the real history is not written in school or college books.

You are depicting the US government (and the CIA) as pious and innocent entities.
now allow me to ask you these questions:

- who sank the Maine ship in 1898, provoking the Spanish -American war?
- who created the Monroe doctrine?
- who created the Plan Condor, which favored the golpes in Latin America, the horrors of state terrorism and the death of thousands of desaparecidos?
- who murdered Ernesto Guevara? who hid the corpse?



One more thing: do you think that Russia had something against the US? Is Supporting the leftist governments of Chile, Cuba etc...against America?

 

[leibowde84]

well...in seven years, from the beginning of Youtube, the number of videos about the Moon hoax have been increasing impressively....maybe because the Chinese are planning new missions, so the conspiracy topic is inevitably brought up, either directly or indirectly.

Personally I am not bothered by these Moon hoaxers. I watch their videos with discrete interest. But their thesis, in my opinion are quite weak and the evidence they provide, are irrelevant.

I think, we have strong evidence that the Americans landed on the Moon several times in less than three years. and before daring the Moon Landing, they had prepared several missions (the Apollo 10 was the last, where they floated over the Moon but did not land)

what do you think of these moon hoaxers?

I can see the moon landing sites with my telescope from my back yard. I haave absolutely no doubt that we landed on the moon, because I have seen the evidence with my own eyes.

 

[Estro Felino]

moon hoaxers....a gift 4 you

 

[Kirran]

@Hay85 - to you, would any spaceflight advancement made in the future be unacceptable unless it was conducted by the Russian government?