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What do you think of the virgin birth of Jesus ?

What's your opinion about the virgin birth of Jesus


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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
UUGGHHH

So if the taste of the dog was great then you'll keep on eating dogs and cats, you know if you're the only woman on earth and looks as an angel, i won't even touch you.

What an unbearable thought. It might even be an incentive to feast on cats and dogs, lol.

But you are still not answering my question, for some reason. So, let's try again...

You said you have no problem to follow the prohibitions of your religion because you do not like pork and wine, amongst other things.

But how do you know you do not like them?

Ciao

- viole
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What an unbearable thought. It might even be an incentive to feast on cats and dogs, lol.

But you are still not answering my question, for some reason. So, let's try again...

You said you have no problem to follow the prohibitions of your religion because you do not like pork and wine, amongst other things.

But how do you know you do not like them?

Ciao

- viole

By Fitra, the same way that i see the cockroaches as disgusting, i don't have to try it first.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
thanks :)


Well, that's unfortunate, because I find it difficult that anyone who designed and responsible for the millions of children that starve to death on the planet is worthy of my praise or consideration. It'd take hell anyday.

first of all, logicallly , you can't blame/critic the Designer for His choice at least you become His partner , or equivalent to Him .


The death childern will be in heaven (as i believe) ,then death is natural status to everyone , it's not much important , when or where or how we die . in the end : we all reach that status "death" .
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
i don't like wines ... i don't like pork ..
God makes juices to ferment and he unnecessarily created pigs. Even Jesus did not like them.

I understand, FearGod, madarsas do not teach evolution or any science other than computer hacking or bomb making. Naturally, you would not understand.
 
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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
You have to ask those who tried both.


Well, I am skeptical. I met a Muslim once who said exactly the same. He would not like pork anyway, no need to try it.
Until he tried it, and he enjoyed it a lot. So, it could be the same with you, how do you know?

Ciao

- viole
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well, I am skeptical. I met a Muslim once who said exactly the same. He would not like pork anyway, no need to try it.
Until he tried it, and he enjoyed it a lot. So, it could be the same with you, how do you know?

Ciao

- viole

I don't like it regardless of religion, the same way that i'll never try to taste the meat of dogs, regardless of religion too.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
He created creatures that possess free will, the jinn were more powerful than humans and some of them became harmful and enemies to humans.
Undertaken by Allah is (to show) the right path, while there are some (paths) that are crooked. Had He so willed, He would have led all of you to the right path.(16:9)

So God creating the Jinn with their free will knowing they would negatively affect humans. This was his design, right?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
first of all, logicallly , you can't blame/critic the Designer for His choice at least you become His partner , or equivalent to Him .

That's fine with me. I choose to blame his choice.

The death childern will be in heaven (as i believe) ,then death is natural status to everyone , it's not much important , when or where or how we die . in the end : we all reach that status "death" .

I would tend to disagree. To me, it seems very important that when or where or how we die, say near the end of our lives, in our deathbeds, and hopefully peacefully in our sleep. This to me seems significantly different, than a child essentially slowing starving to death, or someone contracted Ebola, when they have the chance to also lethally infect their family if they in-so-much as touch them. We all reach that status "death," but while we are living, some suffer incredibly more than others through no fault of their own. God could presumably rectify this if he wanted. It was his design after all.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So God creating the Jinn with their free will knowing they would negatively affect humans. This was his design, right?

Who told you that God designed the Jinns only for the purpose of misleading humans ?
Do you have a verse or any proof for it ?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Who told you that God designed the Jinns only for the purpose of misleading humans ?
Do you have a verse or any proof for it ?

I don't know much about Jinns, but if this is at all accurate:

"Jinn, jann or djinn (singular: jinnī, djinni, or genie; Arabic: الجن‎ al-jinn, singular الجني al-jinnī) are supernatural creatures in Islamic mythology as well as pre-Islamic Arabian mythology. They are mentioned frequently in the Quran (the 72nd sura is titled Sūrat al-Jinn) and other Islamic texts and inhabit an unseen world called Djinnestan, another universe beyond the known universe. The Quran says that the jinn are made of a smokeless and "scorching fire",[1] but are also physical in nature, being able to interact in a tactile manner with people and objects and likewise be acted upon. The jinn, humans, and angels make up the three known sapient creations of God. Like human beings, the jinn can be good, evil, or neutrally benevolent and hence have free will like humans and unlike angels.[2] The shaytan jinn are the analogue of demons in Christian tradition, but the jinn are not angels and the Quran draws a clear distinction between the two creations. The Quran states in surat Al-Kahf (The Cave), Ayah 50,[3] that Iblis (Azazel) is one of the jinn...

In Islamic theology jinn are said to be creatures with free will, made from smokeless fire by Allah as humans were made of clay, among other things.[6] According to the Quran, jinn have free will, and Iblīs abused this freedom in front of Allah by refusing to bow to Adam when Allah ordered angels and jinn to do so. For disobeying Allah, Iblīs was expelled from Paradise and called "Shayṭān" (Satan). Jinn are frequently mentioned in the Quran: Surah 72 (named Sūrat al-Jinn) is named after the jinn, and has a passage about them. Another surah (Sūrat al-Nās) mentions jinn in the last verse.[7] The Qurʾan also mentions that Muhammad was sent as a prophet to both "humanity and the jinn", and that prophets and messengers were sent to both communities.[8][9]

They are usually invisible to humans, but humans do appear clearly to jinn, as they can possess them. Jinn have the power to travel large distances at extreme speeds and are thought to live in remote areas, mountains, seas, trees, and the air, in their own communities. Like humans, jinn will also be judged on the Day of Judgment and will be sent to Paradise or Hell according to their deeds.[10]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn


Then, I'm not making the case God make Jinns only for the purpose of misleading humans. He may have made them for a multiple purposes. But at the end of the day, the Jinns were cast out, and some do evil, and some do good, by exercising their free will, in accords to God's design, and from that, some of the Jinn apparently cause the starvation of millions of humans, also in accords with God's design.

Is this inaccurate?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Humans do not reproduce asexually. An ovum needs a sperm to result in pregnancy.
A virgin giving birth is illogical.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That's fine with me. I choose to blame his choice.
that's fine with me too , it's invalid blame and choice .

is your blame change anything of His choice in past or in futur (what will happened ) ?

I would tend to disagree. To me, it seems very important that when or where or how we die, say near the end of our lives, in our deathbeds, and hopefully peacefully in our sleep. This to me seems significantly different, than a child essentially slowing starving to death, or someone contracted Ebola, when they have the chance to also lethally infect their family if they in-so-much as touch them. We all reach that status "death," but while we are living, some suffer incredibly more than others through no fault of their own. God could presumably rectify this if he wanted. It was his design after all.
that's your opinion , for me it's very important when or where or how we die .

we were "not exist" and we will back for period of time in status of "not exist" .

some suffer incredibly and some enjoying incredibly .

Child die by disease (in air or water) or in war , or because poverity ...etc that could blame on human being not God .

indeed God designed us , but He gave us the choice how to role our period of life , by His rules/limites
 

dust1n

Zindīq
If the knife is designed to cut the chicken then do you blame the designer if one used it to kill a human.

No, but your illustration isn't accurate. If a knife is designed to cut a chicken, and people are designed to act how to do act (which is sometimes stab someone with a knife), then I would blame the designer. Because God not only designed the knife, he also designed the chicken and the human and the stab.
 
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