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What do you think of the virgin birth of Jesus ?

What's your opinion about the virgin birth of Jesus


  • Total voters
    46

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
if you read that , just tell me :

did the scientific sources talking about fossils of sprem and egg of human (for exmple), how they match with each other ?

Zygote formation has nothing to do with fossils. Read about biology if you want to know more about that.

I'm going to ask you the same question I asked FearGod: have you read any peer-reviewed scientific sources about evolution?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Again, where is the source which shows that we have evidences for penis and vagina billions of years ago ?

Try to read the link I gave you. It should answer your questions.

When are you going to answer my question? Or should I conclude that you haven't done any research about evolution and are just repeating misconceptions about it?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Try to read the link I gave you. It should answer your questions.

When are you going to answer my question? Or should I conclude that you haven't done any research about evolution and are just repeating misconceptions about it?

Quote the paragraph which mention facts about fossils for the penis and vagina, because i didn't find it, i assumed that you know already where such information is, so copy and paste it.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Quote the paragraph which mention facts about fossils for the penis and vagina, because i didn't find it, i assumed that you know already where such information is, so copy and paste it.

I haven't read any specific part about the penis and vagina when I read a bit of the content on that website. I'm not sure if it mentions them in particular, but it does talk about how the human body evolved as a whole.

Again: When are you going to answer my question?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Zygote formation has nothing to do with fossils. Read about biology if you want to know more about that.

I'm going to ask you the same question I asked FearGod: have you read any peer-reviewed scientific sources about evolution?
No, i did not read
how i can sure it's had 100 waranty of credibility ? I mean not just thought and theories , so Darwin was proof wrong ?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
No, i did not read
how i can sure it's had 100 waranty of credibility ? I mean not just thought and theories , so Darwin was proof wrong ?

The theory of evolution has advanced a lot since Darwin's time. Scientists have discovered many pieces of evidence since then.

You can be sure of a source's credibility if it is peer-reviewed. Being peer-reviewed means that many scientists reviewed the claims in the source and approved them as scientifically accurate, and most biologists in the world agree that the theory of evolution is a scientific fact.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I haven't read any specific part about the penis and vagina when I read a bit of the content on that website. I'm not sure if it mentions them in particular, but it does talk about how the human body evolved as a whole.

Again: When are you going to answer my question?

I know and i read a lot of articles about evolution.

Whats your point of the need to read more books about evolution ? i asked you a question and you don't know the answer but you just trust what the evolutionists say even though that you have no real experience in the subject.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The theory of evolution has advanced a lot since Darwin's time. Scientists have discovered many pieces of evidence since then.

You can be sure of a source's credibility if it is peer-reviewed. Being peer-reviewed means that many scientists reviewed the claims in the source and approved them as scientifically accurate, and most biologists in the world agree that the theory of evolution is a scientific fact.

Exactly as the blocks and the palace are facts.
Do you think we can make a palace without the simpler building blocks ?
 

raph

Member
I believe it, but I didn't vote because I don't know, if it is explainable by science. There are female animals, that clone itself, without a male sperm. Maybe this is somehow possible with humans too, trough a wierd mutation or something. But it is a miracle either way, and maybe it is against science, who knows.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I know and i read a lot of articles about evolution.

Whats your point of the need to read more books about evolution ? i asked you a question and you don't know the answer but you just trust what the evolutionists say even though that you have no real experience in the subject.

I also believe what scientists have to say about gravity, relativity, and embryology even though I'm not a scientist myself. I don't see why I should treat evolution any differently and deny it on the grounds that I'm not an expert in it.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I also believe what scientists have to say about gravity, relativity, and embryology even though I'm not a scientist myself. I don't see why I should treat evolution any differently and deny it on the grounds that I'm not an expert in it.

You have a blind faith on scientists.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, I just believe the consensus of the scientific community. Unlike ancient myths--one of which I consider to be the virgin birth--I can see the benefits of science in my everyday life.

Who denies the benefit of science, that is actually the difference between animals and humans.
But do you think that science had confirmed to you how life existed from the non living matter and how bacteria was made by chance to be mutated to evolve into more complex organisms till the appearance of humans.

What makes you to believe that some scientists were right that life existed by its own and evolved by its own ? is it because you can't see God at work.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Who denies the benefit of science, that is actually the difference between animals and humans.
But do you think that science had confirmed to you how life existed from the non living matter and how bacteria was made by chance to be mutated to evolve into more complex organisms till the appearance of humans.

What makes you to believe that some scientists were right that life existed by its own and evolved by its own ? is it because you can't see God at work.

Because I trust the scientific method and science more than religion. I see no reason to believe that a god exists, much less a creator god who supposedly created and oversees life on Earth.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Do you believe a woman can get pregnant without a man being involved ?
Does science support it ?
I can't pick any of your options. My answer would have to be "other", due to the fact that
Do you believe a woman can get pregnant without a man being involved ?
Does science support it ?
If we are presupposing God, then I guess anything is possible. But, in the way that you asked the question, at that time in history, there was no way that a woman could have gotten pregnant without a man involved at all. It's not like Mary could have gone down to the local OBGYN to get artificially inseminated, so the only way that this could have taken place would be supernatural intervention.

I voted "no" because there is no evidence beyond scripture pointing to the virgin birth. Thus, there is no plausible reason to believe it happened. I mean, it isn't even mentioned in all of the Gospels. Just seems a bit far fetched that something so amazing would not be discussed more.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
They are not designed; they just evolved through natural processes and especially natural selection. That's how.

How to be selected if not evolved first ? random mutation first and the lucky ones will pass.

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