What Does the Cross Mean to You?

[Thief]

It's a question, not a suggestion. I was curious how people like him were planning to stomp out religion.

ah yes.....of course
kinda thought so
wanted to be sure

I think there is another thread around here somewhere
all about abolishing religion

but too many have suffered
too many crosses to burn

no way to get rid of it

I for one do not practice religion
I do wear a ring with a cross on it
but I do not call myself Christian.....or any other creed

for lack of a better notation...…...rogue theologian

 

[Shadow Link]

and He did say.....Take up your cross and follow Me

but I for one cannot reconcile the death of one Man as a sacrifice for all men

The cross can be for the focus of infinite purpose and can also be viewed as the greatest concentration of eternal thought.

Being a symbol for the substitutionary sacrifice of human guilt, right away reduces at one of the main problems that concern humanity, it becomes a focus point for the guide and benefit of future generation seekers so that the power of forgiveness can become understood through the meaning of the cross.

 

[paarsurrey]

What Does the Cross Mean to You?

Even Jesus never loved Cross. If he ever loved it then please quote from him. Right, please?

Regards

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Or for much of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, Oceania, the Pacific Islands, Africa, etc. It represents genocide. They will never be able to apologize enough for what they've done. It is irrevocable.

Im not sure that's true.

The Catholics in particular have altered their whole approach to Jews and Judaism with Nostra Aetate, a chief document of Vatican II. Since that time, they have engaged in valuable dialogue with us. In 2000, Pope John Paul II apologized on the world stage for the Church's treatment of Jews. They recognize the state of Israel. They no longer mark us for conversion. Do you think this things go unappreciated????

 

[Thief]

and the story I got from scripture.....

crucifixion was Roman execution
Judea was occupied and the Jews had no law of capital punishment

the random stoning that occurred would have been illegal

for Rome to be in charge capital punishment would belong to the Romans
hence the trial under Roman authority
and the execution under Roman writ

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Im not sure that's true.

The Catholics in particular have altered their whole approach to Jews and Judaism with Nostra Aetate, a chief document of Vatican II. Since that time, they have engaged in valuable dialogue with us. In 2000, Pope John Paul II apologized on the world stage for the Church's treatment of Jews. They recognize the state of Israel. They no longer mark us for conversion. Do you think this things go unappreciated????

I wasn't only thinking of Jews with that statement.

 

[paarsurrey]

Cross is not to be liked, Jesus did not like it, he never praised it. Cross is a symbol of torture, and on it Jesus was tortured. Though Jesus survived a cursed death on Cross and against all odds he miraculously survived.
No, Cross is not to be loved. The first century Christians used fish as their symbol , why change it?
Right, please?

Regards

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Cross is not to be liked, Jesus did not like it, he never praised it. Cross is a symbol of torture, and on it Jesus was tortured. Though Jesus survived a cursed death on Cross and against all odds he miraculously survived.
No, Cross is not to be loved. The first century Christians used fish as their symbol , why change it?
Right, please?

Regards

Actually, second century persecuted Christians made the sign of the cross on their foreheads. Those Christians who hid from the Romans down in the catacombs used a plethora of symbols such as the cross, anchor, dove, chi-rho, peacocks, loaves, the young shepherd, pelican, lamb, phoenix, and more, not just the fish.

Even in first century Christianity, the chi-rho (the first to letters of christ, an x superimposed by a p) was widely used.