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What Drives The Trump Haters

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Did you even read the whole thing? What is so paranoid about his Synopsis?

The use of terminology through out this essay and the others referenced indicate a paranoid conspiracy siege mindset, like 'humanist conspiracies,' and the conspiracy of the "Academic/Media Complex" . . . imposing a world government.'

as in the following . . .

What we identify as an "Academic/Media Complex" is, basically, "all in" for imposing a world government to crush the very human "diversity," they pretend to respect.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's pretty darn simple. Had Saint Hillary been a better candidate we would not be having this conversation as Trump would have been washed up politically and, by now, largely forgotten.

And had McCain and Romney been better candidates, Obama wouldn't have had eight years. Conservatives still constantly whined about him though, and Obama's flaws and failings are completely dwarfed by Trump's. So again, I don't see your point.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
The use of terminology through out this essay and the others referenced indicate a paranoid conspiracy siege mindset, like 'humanist conspiracies,' and the conspiracy of the "Academic/Media Complex" . . . imposing a world government.'

as in the following . . .

What we identify as an "Academic/Media Complex" is, basically, "all in" for imposing a world government to crush the very human "diversity," they pretend to respect.
Paranoid? That's not going to hold any water. Looks like your cherry picking a statement without the conclusion of what was previously stated with in the context of that paragraph.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
From TruthBasedLogic.com

What Drives The Trump Haters

Enjoy!
The argument that Trump haters hate america is a straw man. People may hate Trump because of the retarded things he says and does and some believe that Trumps approach makes the US standing in the world worse. The revolutionary war was a stand against authoritarianism, trump actually stands against the principles that made this country great to begin with.
Donald Trump Has Broken the Constitution
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
----Donald Trump's greatest achievements----

Trump revokes background checks to buy guns

NEWS FEB 28 2017, 8:39 PM ET

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

Trump signs bill revoking Obama-era gun checks for mental illness

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday rejected an Obama-era plan to make automobiles more fuel efficient, opening up a long process to weaken current standards and putting California and the federal government on a collision course over vehicle emissions.

EPA to Relax Fuel Efficiency Standards for Autos

Trump sons' hunting in focus as US lifts import ban on African elephant trophies

The Trump administration’s decision to loosen restrictions around the import of elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia has turned attention back to the president’s family’s own connection to the controversial sport.

Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump are prolific big-game hunters and during the 2016 campaign, images re-emerged of the pair on a 2011 hunting trip posing with animals they had killed on safari, including an elephant, a buffalo and a leopard.

xoxo, Jane on Twitter

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump again called for an end to the filibuster and said there will be no deal with Democrats on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, also known as DACA.

"Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. 'Caravans' coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL," Trump tweeted Sunday morning.

Trump tweets: 'NO MORE DACA DEAL' - CNNPolitics

Let's show the world how a true democracy works------
Our greatest achievement is impeaching trump
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Off the top....

An incredible Entitlement mentality and the belief that government should be your daddy and should take care of and control just about every aspect of a person's life.
Who thinks that? I do understand that Fox and Rush tell their audience this.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
The argument that Trump haters hate america is a straw man.
Where is this statement made?
People may hate Trump because of the retarded things he says
Speaking about "political correctness" again, proving most of the point.
The revolutionary war was a stand against authoritarianism, trump actually stands against the principles that made this country great to begin with.
Well I think the author knows far more about the subject to convince me then you do.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Where is this statement made?
The entirety of the article.
Speaking about "political correctness" again, proving most of the point.
You cut off things he "does". I'm not talking about him being a bully, get some context rather quote mining me.
Well I think the author knows far more about the subject to convince me then you do.
Why because he ended with a prayer to God? I think the author I pointed to, knows far more than both of us and more than the author you cited.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
From TruthBasedLogic.com

What Drives The Trump Haters

Enjoy!
I found this thread under North American Politics, so I'll comment.

Shadow Link,

Are you too lazy to excerpt relevant parts from your linked article?

Are you too insecure to express your own comments regarding anything in the linked article?

Six-year-olds can copy and paste links and say "SEE!"​
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Paranoid? That's not going to hold any water. Looks like your cherry picking a statement without the conclusion of what was previously stated with in the context of that paragraph.

No, not cherry picking. This a real specific example which has broad implications that reflect the different essays that this one is linked to. Your dodging the real implications of such statements.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
No, not cherry picking. This a real specific example which has broad implications that reflect the different essays that this one is linked to. Your dodging the real implications of such statements.
I think your dodging truthful implications.

I found this thread under North American Politics, so I'll comment.

Shadow Link,

Are you too lazy to excerpt relevant parts from your linked article?

Are you too insecure to express your own comments regarding anything in the linked article?

Six-year-olds can copy and paste links and say "SEE!"​
Personal suggestive attacks won't help you none.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Shadow Link said:
I think your dodging truthful implications.

I fully comprehend the implications from the perspective of Christian Dominion Theology, and the extreme view of Fundamentalist Christianity, of course also the problem of Christian Manifest Destiny.

. . . but as far as what the 'truthful' implications, this would be an assumptions from an extreme Christian theological perspective. From a less biased perspective it is riddled with conspiracy theories concerning the secular, humanism, One World conspiracies. It also rejects a science neutral from religious presuppositions concerning the nature of our physical existence.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
That's quite a stretch you got going on there!
How so, the whole article is about Trump being a true American for supporting the revolutionary war. Its like a giant no true Scotsman article.
Yeah, I really didn't want to turn this into a collusion conspiracy.
I didn't mention anything about collusion. I can put it another way, people don't like Trump because the policies he wants to make are no good and fly in the face of our constitution.
Why, would this be the decisive evidence you need?
I am not the one using appeal to authority instead of diving into the the actual argument. The fact that I cited a professor in law to back up my opinion should at least catch your attention if you insist on appealing to authority.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
I fully comprehend the implications from the perspective of Christian Dominion Theology, and the extreme view of Fundamentalist Christianity, of course also the problem of Christian Manifest Destiny.

. . . but as far as what the 'truthful' implications, this would be an assumptions from an extreme Christian theological perspective. From a less biased perspective it is riddled with conspiracy theories concerning the secular, humanism, One World conspiracies. It also rejects a science neutral from religious presuppositions concerning the nature of our physical existence.
You have much more yet to learn.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
I didn't mention anything about collusion. I can put it another way, people don't like Trump because the policies he wants to make are no good and fly in the face of our constitution.
What policies?
I am not the one using appeal to authority instead of diving into the the actual argument. The fact that I cited a professor in law to back up my opinion should at least catch your attention if you insist on appealing to authority.
Thanks, now I know you don't really get it.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
*Raises hand* Although I hesitate to say "hate", more a deep sense of contempt and concern.

My general opinion of Trump has been somewhat the same ever since I started hearing his name more and more in media and popular culture. He seemed like he was some kind of poster boy for big business in the Reaganomics era. He was a bit of a blowhard who seemed to enjoy the limelight that the media put upon him. There was a huge audience of people who seemed to idolize the lifestyles of the rich and famous and tycoons like Trump. This is ostensibly how Trump ended up becoming enough of a household name to be able to get into politics in the first place.

But I didn't really end up hating Trump personally. However, I did feel a similar deep sense of contempt and concern about the direction US society and politics was taking back in those days. I think that the country entered some kind of insular "bubble" - perhaps some kind of ameliorative sedative to soften the effects of the more politically volatile and upsetting 1960s and 70s. By the 80s, it was "don't worry, be happy," and we've been wanting it to stay that way ever since.

I think Trump is more of a symptom of a deeper issue affecting America. Those who would focus all their anger and hatred on Trump personally are probably wasting their energy.
 
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