Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Given Trump's history of respecting disabled people, it's probably appropriate for this thread.
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What Drives The Trump Haters
- Thread starter Shadow Link
- Start date
Then with Trump's history of cheating contractors, would
it be OK to talk about his "jewing" people out of money?
I like where this is going....it feels liberating!
Shadow Link
Active Member
Where was the question?
Yerda
Veteran Member
To be fair to lefties and sane people everywhere we despised Donald Trump long before he ran for president of Crazyville. We saw him for the bull****ting con man he is from around the first time we heard him speak.
EDIT: Though I'd be liar if I said I didn't admire his balls. He keeps shafting people and they keep forming a line to buy anything he's selling.
TheBannerofHomuraAkemi
Active Member
As someone who hates Trump I can assure you I hate Trump far more than just his inability to be political correct and I laugh at the notion that Trump loves America. The only thing Trump loves is himself and maybe money.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Does anyone in America hate more people by name than Trump himself?
It's so hypocritical that some on the right call some others here "Trump-haters" while apparently not having enough sense to realize that hate spews out of Trump's mouth and tweets just about every day of the week.
It's so hypocritical that some on the right call some others here "Trump-haters" while apparently not having enough sense to realize that hate spews out of Trump's mouth and tweets just about every day of the week.
Shadow Link
Active Member
The real con man was Obama. We could get into all the policies you'd like, but we would just conclude that those policies would just add up to one big achievement of failure in an attempt to monopolize and push democratic socialism down our throats, and as far as that goes, the rest of the world too. Trump! Trump! Trump!
Aww...yeah...the good ole "having sense" debacle vs. "true intent" debate. Trump! Trump! Trump!
And what I find funny is knowing that the libs had control of every institutionalized avenue of power, hating the constitution and its understanding of liberty, and yet they still lost. Trump! Trump! Trump!
I see a hatred for liberals and democrats from the right. I do not see independents or conservatives or democrats that hate trump constantly going on about “them righties , them conservatives” etc. Also trump fan boys tend to take any sort of criticism to Trump personally when really it’s about Trump and his impecable ability to constantly crap on constitutional values. Trump getting rid of laws isn’t accomplishing anything except making it easier for the rich to exploit the poor and middle class.
TheBannerofHomuraAkemi
Active Member
Your so funny. Everything you spit out of your mouth is ether Extreme right wing propaganda or strawman ideology. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
Shadow Link
Active Member
Yeah, that's it, yeah. Let's pretend you have a clue about what you're writing about. Surly they'll believe you...
ecco
Veteran Member
That sounds just like the fundies saying scientists hate god and His glorious Creation. A lot of fundies voted for Trump. With their simplistified view of things, they believed He would reopen the coal mines and the steel mills and get rid of that evil NAFTA and put the Chynees in their place and...and...
It is an embarrassment to America that Trump is president, because of what he is and, more important, because of how many people voted for him.
We know that Trump is prone to hatred.
But this does not excuse the rampant vitriol coming from the losing
side, who are far & away more prone to demonizing the opposing side.
Sure, sure, you resent us for voting him into office. But you don't
face how the alternative appeared to portend an even worse outcome.
The best thing to do is be civil to the other side, no matter how they voted.
Just accept that reasonable people can disagree. Criminy...look at
the Supreme Court. They're supposed to be genius level constitutional
scholars, & yet they often split 5/4. But do they call each other "deplorable"
or "commie"? No...not usually.
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Is that really the best you can do in response?
I think it's become par for the course these days that there is such hatred and vitriol in politics. I guess I've grown accustomed to it, at least as far as how angry and worked up some people get over politics (or religion or any number of other subjects).
I can get why many people hate Trump. My only real disagreement is that much of it sounds too alarmist, as if Trump is somehow worse than anything America has ever experienced. That seems a bit over the top.
I also find reason to question some of the underlying insinuations regarding many of those investigating and/or leading the chorus of "deplorable" rhetoric. It's not simply a matter of saying that Trump is bad, but I've noticed significant efforts towards trying to make all these other politicians and bureaucrats look good. Those who might defend Trump might be accused of impugning the reputations of government investigators or the CIA or FBI, as if Americans always viewed them as paragons of virtue. That's the kind of stuff I roll my eyes at.
There are 2 kinds of people.
1) Those who see the President as an examplar, with personal
traits defining his value, eg, oration, ethics, intelligence.
2) Those who see the President in terms of the record left behind
in office, eg, wars, economic effect, civil rights. Whether the man
is dirtbag or saint, it's irrelevant.
Each group will seldom see eye to eye when evaluating Presidents.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
People don't hate Trump. People just hate what Trump says and does.
tytlyf
Not Religious
The Tea Party supporters. You know, the Koch astroturf movement which helped them in 2010.
They hate the education system too. An education is elitist to them. Because RW media tells them that.
I think a lot of people put too much stock into the "person" known as the President, while not really looking at the entire organization. The President is in charge of the Executive Branch of government, which has over 4 million employees. These are the people who directly control the apparatus and pull all the levers. When people talk about "Big Gov" or "Big Brother," that's who they're talking about.
But the public's attitude towards the President (the man in charge of "Big Gov") seems quite different, as if there's some kind of disconnect between the view of the President versus the organization of which he is in charge.
As a citizen who ordinarily advocates for good government, one might sort of expect a President to take charge, kick a few butts, and manage the operations he's been put in charge of. If some departments are sloppy or wasteful or slacking, then someone has to lay down the law.
I hate Trump, sorta.
I didn't know much about him before he ran for president. Almost everything I learned about him, though, was deplorable. From his nasty TV show to his philandering to his shady finances to his ego to....
Well, I don't think I knew anything about him that suggested ability or integrity or purpose beyond self enrichment and conspicuous consumption. I came to despise him thoroughly as a person.
Then there were his campaign tactics and promises. Protect the super rich and wall out the poor. Replace the ACA by ending state's ability to regulate health insurance companies. Get in bed with the biggest enemy the USA has, Putin. And use a Putinesque tactic, threatening to imprison the opposition. He advocated violence as a campaign tool, while hiding behind lawyers and Fox News to maintain plausible deniability.
I found him to be a Deplorable human being promising to run roughshod over values we Americans hold dear.
Then, The People voted. By a margin of millions, We voted for his opponent. But Trump and his Russian buddies are better at running a rigged game than even Bilarry. So he's in the White House, acting like the American people approved of his nonsense when we didn't.
"Hate" is a strong word. How about "Despise"? I despise Trump and his lack of competence and ethics. I despise his political platform, the one We voted against. I feel no need to support him in any way whatsoever.
He is president, but not mine.
Tom
Shadow Link
Active Member
Yeah, I get it...it's not that you're ignorant, it's just that you know so much that isn't so.
Well, go for it then, let's hear a better rebuttal against yourself to prove yourself wrong, from yourself.
What? did you go back and clear the responses of other posters?.......nope the proof of hate is still there...nice try though.