waitasec
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not if one had an affinity for unicorns or santa clause...
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What evidence for God
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not if one had an affinity for unicorns or santa clause...
it's all a joke
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The awnser is there is NO evidence for God creating the universe, and frankly why does somebody have to of created it, the reason why this belife came around was that we were looking for explanations that we simply did not have knowlegde to explain. Now i'm not saying that we now know for sure that is was the big bangl; however what I am saying is that it is quite primative of some people to still be looking for the awnser in the form of a powerful being in the sky.
Individuals like yourself always insist on retreating into the realm of the untestable. Thats fine if you want to do that but it means you forgo being able to make any claims because without being testable no claim can be established as being true or false.
We're talking about evidence for God. If you've no interest in putting forward evidence for God then why are you posting in this thread?
Orias
Left Hand Path
I see. Testable theories cannot be proven because the accuser lacks in faith. I wouldn't consider that justified, just down right pre-denial. A man who believes in God will test a theory and assume it as proven, simply because he believes. The same goes with one who does not believe.
Of course, your prayer example could also justify the existence of God, if one prays for good fortune and it happens upon him then it could be considered a justification for the existence of God, though most would agree that it is a natural anomoly that happens often.
Everyone has their own ways of explaining something, most just chose to follow one side, rather than looking at the whole picture however.
Though, unicorns and fairies were meant to exist as separate fantastical entites, God can exist without being considered "supernatural" and an "entity", yet a certain faith is still required to consume this thought, and many (not all) people are not able to fathom something greater than themselves.
Asking for evidence seems to me to be a trust issue. Where you lack faith and trust in the Earth and the motion that carries our bodies through space and time. Of course, this is a naturalist view point, and can also be applied to the Opposition as well.
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diosangpastol
Dios - ang - Pastol
can i post here The Kalam Cosmological Argument for the Existence of God ... 
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
can i post here The Kalam Cosmological Argument for the Existence of God ...
As long as you don't actually think it's evidence.
Orias
Left Hand Path
If you define a creator as a "God", then of course all things would be considered such.
Even the smallest of motions impact the heaviest scales.
waitasec
Veteran Member
excellent point!!!
diosangpastol
Dios - ang - Pastol
Testable hypotheses/claims can be proven or disproven which in relation to religion would be claims of divine intervention. Untestable hypotheses/claims can't be proven or disproven such as the claim that God exists without any of the peripheral claims.
In science great efforts are made to minimise the influence of bias and if you don't get the answer you want then tough luck. If you try and fudge the results then usually it won't take long for you to be found out, especially when others try to reproduce your results.
Don't try and apply the poor investigative standards of the relgion to science.
This experiment proved that prayer was inneffective at reducing complications following surgery. It doesn't prove that God doesn't exists unless Gods existance is dependent on him answering prayers and nobody knows if this is the case.
Wishy washy nonsense. The reason why people utilise the scientific method is because it works and is the best system we currently have available to us. Alternative methods such as making things up and attributing it to supernatural agents didn't work despite its popularity in the past and continueing popularity now when people really should know better.
Insults and special pleading. You''ll need to do better than that
Its called skepticism which without a person is little more than a credulous fool. I've been skeptical of religious claims since I was a young child because quite frankly they are generally ridiculous.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Not so far.
But perhaps you would be so kind as to present the part(s) that you think does?
Why do the religious come across as cheap car salesmen when trying to push their scripture on people?
McBell
Admiral Obvious
UM...
To many amateur sales men?
I went to a funeral recently and even then I got the same impression. Constantly dropping in lines about how awesome God was when it would have been nice if he could have focused on the person we were there to commemorate, the dead guy.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
If the product you're selling isn't worth buying for it's own qualities, you have to do something to try to convince people they really need it.
I'm reading Wheel of Time series from the start again so I'm good for fantasy reading at the moment.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Ack, I've done that before. You've got plenty of skirt-smoothing and braid-pulling ahead of you again.