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What exactly is evil?

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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Are storms evil? How about a volcanic eruption with the slow advance of lava destroying homes? Or an earthquake that traps thousands in the rubble?

Is famine evil or is it evil for turning a blind, indifferent eye to it and letting it continue unabated when it could be stopped or prevented?

Is it evil to push your child to take a loan they wont achieve the means to pay back for an education in the thing they love, because you love them and want them to have what you didn't?
 

JustGeorge

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I like kale too. Rabbits are the scourge of the vegetable patch.
When I had a garden, a lone rabbit would come and nibble a few leaves every day. Babbit was a good guy, just hungry. He took what he needed, and left.

Not like those nasty woodchucks. They'd take everything, take one bite off of it, and lay it on the train tracks to get run over(there were tracks behind the house).

Woodchucks are evil.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
When I had a garden, a lone rabbit would come and nibble a few leaves every day. Babbit was a good guy, just hungry. He took what he needed, and left.

Not like those nasty woodchucks. They'd take everything, take one bite off of it, and lay it on the train tracks to get run over(there were tracks behind the house).

Woodchucks are evil.
So are ducks.

Duck Season!
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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Premium Member
When I had a garden, a lone rabbit would come and nibble a few leaves every day. Babbit was a good guy, just hungry. He took what he needed, and left.

Not like those nasty woodchucks. They'd take everything, take one bite off of it, and lay it on the train tracks to get run over(there were tracks behind the house).

Woodchucks are evil.
Did you know there is no scientific definition for pest. It's entirely subjective to the context. To a corn farmer, the western corn rootworm is a terrible pest, but to someone else, it may just be a pretty beetle. A beautiful rose might be a weed if it is growing where we don't want it to grow. A rat might be a pet in one instance and vermin in another.

Your post brought that to mind in the context of this discussion. Somethings may be seen as evil by many, maybe even all, while others it is highly subjective and may be good or evil depending on the context.

But leaving a tomato with one bite out of it on the tracks, is an unmitigated act of evil.

Unless your some sort of scavenger that finds the bounty of that forgotten tomato corpse and takes it home to feed its family.
 

JustGeorge

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Did you know there is no scientific definition for pest. It's entirely subjective to the context. To a corn farmer, the western corn rootworm is a terrible pest, but to someone else, it may just be a pretty beetle. A beautiful rose might be a weed if it is growing where we don't want it to grow. A rat might be a pet in one instance and vermin in another.
That's why I try to love stuff as much as I can.
Your post brought that to mind in the context of this discussion. Somethings may be seen as evil by many, maybe even all, while others it is highly subjective and may be good or evil depending on the context.

But leaving a tomato with one bite out of it on the tracks, is an unmitigated act of evil.

Unless your some sort of scavenger that finds the bounty of that forgotten tomato corpse and takes it home to feed its family.
Trains don't eat tomatoes, and if a critter went to get the tomato, they risk safety.

Woodchucks are evil.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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That's why I try to love stuff as much as I can.

Trains don't eat tomatoes, and if a critter went to get the tomato, they risk safety.

Woodchucks are evil.
I don't disagree, but I was thinking of microbes or insects that may be functionally train neutral. Or even birds. Maybe in their evil, the woodchucks make a resource available to others that wasn't previously available.

Nah, woodchucks are evil.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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Are cats evil?
How do you think mice would answer?
I found my cat "playing" with a shrew once. I never heard such a sound. I don't think the shrew considered what was happening to be play. Of course, I'm speaking for the shrew in ways that aren't truly representative of the shrew and more so representative of what I thought. Maybe shrews like that kind of attention.
 

JustGeorge

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I found my cat "playing" with a shrew once. I never heard such a sound. I don't think the shrew considered what was happening to be play. Of course, I'm speaking for the shrew in ways that aren't truly representative of the shrew and more so representative of what I thought. Maybe shrews like that kind of attention.
One of my cats had a shrew femur stuck in his gums.

Neither the shrew, Lamar, or I were amused. The vet was thrilled. Said he never saw such a thing.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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Premium Member
That's why I try to love stuff as much as I can.

Trains don't eat tomatoes, and if a critter went to get the tomato, they risk safety.

Woodchucks are evil.
Thinking about it, in all those portraits of the ark and the animals lined up to get on, there is never a pair of woodchucks to be found.

So evil, they were purposefully left off the ark and still survived.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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One of my cats had a shrew femur stuck in his gums.

Neither the shrew, Lamar, or I were amused. The vet was thrilled. Said he never saw such a thing.
I can't say as I have ever heard of such a thing myself. That's worth a note in some vet journal maybe.

Obviously, your cat wasn't from the Appalachians, since the femur was only stuck in his gums.
 

JustGeorge

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I can't say as I have ever heard of such a thing myself. That's worth a note in some vet journal maybe.

Obviously, your cat wasn't from the Appalachians, since the femur was only stuck in his gums.
The vet asked if I wanted to keep the femur for the story. I said I didn't. He asked if he could. I gave him permission(or, as Yudhi would say, persimmons).
And Lamar, that's a great cat name.
Lamar's a great cat.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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My daughters and grand daughters end up naming the cats.
So for the last I lost count of the number of years the cats have all been named after food.
We did have a Rootbeer. He looked black, but was actually a deep amber brown so dark it looked black. In fact, he is the cat that was "playing" with the shrew. He was the family cat that became my dad's bestest bud. When my father would fall asleep in his chair the cat would be sleeping right there with him on his belly, rising and falling with each breath.
 
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