godnotgod
Thou art That
@Op, contradictory. sorry dude
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@Op, contradictory. sorry dude
He is saying that he does not exist as an individual skin-encapsulated ego apart from the world; that his Identity as 'Deepak Chopra' is not real. The only 'real' is the universal Unborn Deathless consciousness speaking through him.
All this time, you have not been paying attention:
We don't have the same perspective because you are immersed in Identification, in which you firmly believe the "I" to be real, when it is fiction, and so you see reality through a distorted lens.
When reality is seen through universal, rather than personal consciousness, it is then that we DO have the same perspective. Why should reality differ from one to another? The saltiness of the sea is the same everywhere.
Now show me where the division between you and I occurs.
Almost any post in this thread.
Your perspective is not mine.
Then we are just the manifestations of the "universal Unborn Deathless consciousness" talking to Itself.
But what do I know, I don't exist. I guess It just slapped Itself in the face through me....or something.
I am not you or anyone else. My energies and thoughts as well as my body are mine and are only combined with those in whom I choose to share them with.
Seriously?? You can't say on the one hand that people have an idea of 'heaven and hell' only in their heads while simultaneously claiming a panentheistic version of a deity.
It's contradictory
Well godnotgod, I can not only see why you chose this user name, but can understand your view as well, and will venomously argue against this.
Heaven and Hell are dualistic concepts. The Absolute is non-dual.
Tell me: how is it that you can maintain an idea of a Heaven? How is it that you can maintain a concept of Hell?
When you die, you're asked one question.
"What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
If you answer, "The falling tree makes no sound."
Then Jesus gives you a fist bump for your accuracy,
and you go to Amitabha's Pure Land
where you meet Krishna
and live happily ever after.
Why not? What is so difficult about maintaining an idea of hell and heaven?
Seriously?? You can't say on the one hand that people have an idea of 'heaven and hell' only in their heads while simultaneously claiming a panentheistic version of a deity.
It's contradictory
I don't see any contradiction. Why can't people be in such psychological states while a panentheistic deity is the case at the same time?
Nothing. It's simply that to maintain a concept of the one, you must include its opposite. They are dual, being two aspects of the same reality.
Why can't people be in such psychological states while a panentheistic deity is the case at the same time?
"psychological states", am I missing something here? Do you mean the 'concept' of hell and heaven are 'psychological states' or what...?
Yes, yin and yang being part of the One whole, the One whole Truth, the One whole God. There is both universal and individual Truth, and, depending on the aspect of Truth, they can be discreet or combined-- from objective knowledge, through justice and love, to subjective beauty.
Well, a deistic deity. We are nothing without our free will, and that won't exist if God, whatever His/Her/Its form, intervenes.