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What if we accepted each other's religion?

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Why a Divine Teacher? We've had thousands of years yet are we any closer to peace? We are already achieving it through the teachings of Baha'u'llah. The future world civilisation is defined by Him and we can achieve it by uniting humanity. Is there anything higher that one can imagine than the oneness of humankind and world unity in this age? That is the goal. But a spiritual, moral unity. A political unity would only end war not bring happiness.

Our lack of success so far doesnt exclude that no one person will find peace without a Messiah while others will. Instead of saying, we all need a Messiah, how do we find peace to which we all agree on the method, the way, and are happy with the progressing and maturing results of our efforts towards peace?

In an all Abrahamic society, your answer would be perfect. However, that is not the case. So you (and many) have to adapt your answer to other peoples needs and wants not just your own (or mine or Joe Smiths).
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
As a Baha'i I find accepting others religions to be not only workable but creates unity and friendship and peace between us. We accept the Prophet, Messenger or Messiah and His Holy Book and all humanity as a family and it works.

We accept everything except the man made dogmas and interpretations - only the religion in its purest form. Those who want peace will find in this message a great hope for humanity.

This is a call to peace and love and unity!

If only religion was the only blockade to peace. I don't even consider religion the worst blockade.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Our lack of success so far doesnt exclude that no one person will find peace without a Messiah while others will. Instead of saying, we all need a Messiah, how do we find peace to which we all agree on the method, the way, and are happy with the progressing and maturing results of our efforts towards peace?

In an all Abrahamic society, your answer would be perfect. However, that is not the case. So you (and many) have to adapt your answer to other peoples needs and wants not just your own (or mine or Joe Smiths).

To establish peace we will need to develop a world view where humanity comes first and national interests second. That is what the oneness of mankind is. As more people embrace this view we will come closer to peace.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
If only religion was the only blockade to peace. I don't even consider religion the worst blockade.

Yes I agree with you. Nationalism is a huge problem. When we can look beyond race, religion and nationality and just see humanity, then things will change so we spread the idea of the oneness of mankind and say with today's technology world unity is very possible.
 

SSDSSDSSD3

The Great Sea Under!
Humanity won't be united even if we were to accept all religions, the only thing that could unite humanity has positive moral values: or the internet?
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
As a Baha'i I find accepting others religions to be not only workable but creates unity and friendship and peace between us. We accept the Prophet, Messenger or Messiah and His Holy Book and all humanity as a family and it works.

We accept everything except the man made dogmas and interpretations - only the religion in its purest form. Those who want peace will find in this message a great hope for humanity.

This is a call to peace and love and unity!
I think it is more important to know and practice the truth, worshipping the true God in the way that pleases him. (John 4:23,24) If we were to accept the conflicting messages and gods worshipped, only confusion would result, IMO.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Humanity won't be united even if we were to accept all religions, the only thing that could unite humanity has positive moral values: or the internet?

Yes, there are many prejudices of race and nationality not just of religion and until we can accept all humanity unconditionally as equals we will continue to struggle.
 

SSDSSDSSD3

The Great Sea Under!
Yes, there are many prejudices of race and nationality not just of religion and until we can accept all humanity unconditionally as equals we will continue to struggle.
We will never ever all be one race or one nationality or even religion: I don't support the New World Order! Unity doesn't equal uniformity, because humanity thinks in terms of individuality not collectivism.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
We will never ever all be one race or one nationality or even religion: I don't support the New World Order! Unity doesn't equal uniformity, because humanity thinks in terms of individuality not collectivism.

There was a time the nation state did not exist. Now look. Technology has physically united the world into a global village so it's realisation is imminent even though we say it cannot be. Things like interfaith and multiculturalism are developments towards world unity.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why a Divine Teacher? We've had thousands of years yet are we any closer to peace?
Actually the answer is a resounding yes! We are much closer to peace than at any time in history. Statistically there are far less wars and deaths and atrocities, and it is continuing to do so. Watch this presentation by Steven Pinker in this Ted talk.


We are already achieving it through the teachings of Baha'u'llah.
No we aren't. I don't see any correlation of one teacher to changes in the systems we have adopted as societies and cultures which allow for the decline in violence we are achieving. It's not the doing of some one individual religious figure. I'm not saying these people, ourselves included are not part of influencing these things, such as the Dalai Lama by raising the consciousness of people through messages of love and tolerance, but I find it unnecessary and problematic to try to attribute it to one individual.

The future world civilisation is defined by Him and we can achieve it by uniting humanity.
Defined by him? Hardly. We are creating the good in and through ourselves, and it is we who are defining it. Then what we do is take the good we are creating, and package it in into symbols of faith in order to inspire others to follow. This is the nature of your prophets. They are images of ourselves we create which we wish to promote and inspire others with.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I think it is more important to know and practice the truth, worshipping the true God in the way that pleases him. (John 4:23,24) If we were to accept the conflicting messages and gods worshipped, only confusion would result, IMO.

Yes that is true. God in this age however has a cherished wish.

"He Who is your Lord, the All-Merciful, cherisheth in His heart the desire of beholding the entire human race as one soul and one body."
(Baha'u'llah)
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Actually the answer is a resounding yes! We are much closer to peace than at any time in history. Statistically there are far less wars and deaths and atrocities, and it is continuing to do so. Watch this presentation by Steven Pinker in this Ted talk.



No we aren't. I don't see any correlation of one teacher to changes in the systems we have adopted as societies and cultures which allow for the decline in violence we are achieving. It's not the doing of some one individual religious figure. I'm not saying these people, ourselves included are not part of influencing these things, such as the Dalai Lama by raising the consciousness of people through messages of love and tolerance, but I find it unnecessary and problematic to try to attribute it to one individual.


Defined by him? Hardly. We are creating the good in and through ourselves, and it is we who are defining it. Then what we do is take the good we are creating, and package it in into symbols of faith in order to inspire others to follow. This is the nature of your prophets. They are images of ourselves we create which we wish to promote and inspire others with.

There are many good people spreading universal oneness and no one has a monopoly on this. The important thing is we put humanity first.
 

SSDSSDSSD3

The Great Sea Under!
There was a time the nation state did not exist. Now look. Technology has physically united the world into a global village so it's realisation is imminent even though we say it cannot be. Things like interfaith and multiculturalism are developments towards world unity.
Do you think everyone from any group thinks the same as anyone else? Again people don't think in collectivism, but rather individualism, the internet only makes us more like individuals rather an a particular group
 

Mackerni

Libertarian Unitarian
What about the people that are not religious, that don't believe in a God, a belief system, or the supernatural? How do you reconcile the over one billion people on the face of the planet that don't want to be part of any religion?
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There are many good people spreading universal oneness and no one has a monopoly on this. The important thing is we put humanity first.
Can you define what universal oneness looks like? How does someone unconditionally accept someone who embraces a religion which seeks to either convert you to it or kill you trying? How does unconditional acceptance respond to that?
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
What about the people that are not religious, that don't believe in a God, a belief system, or the supernatural? How do you reconcile the over one billion people on the face of the planet that don't want to be part of any religion?

The oneness of humanity means all are welcome believer or non believer. It means we are all part of one human species with equal rights and no race, nationality or religion is superior to any other. We don't have to accept each other's religion just accept humanity as one family. All inclusive.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
The oneness of humanity means all are welcome believer or non believer. It means we are all part of one human species with equal rights and no race, nationality or religion is superior to any other. We don't have to accept each other's religion just accept humanity as one family. All inclusive.

This is essentially, fiction, is what your saying,
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Can you define what universal oneness looks like? How does someone unconditionally accept someone who embraces a religion which seeks to either convert you to it or kill you trying? How does unconditional acceptance respond to that?

Firstly, if anyone or group is trying to harm or kill anyone they must be stopped by force if necessary. Oneness is acceptance of humanity as equals with equal rights and not acceptance of crime and aggression.
 
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