So for Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Jews and so on they have arrived at the conclusion from their own religious background that He has come and it all points for them each to the same Person - Baha’u’llah.
Yeah, and some Buddhists have become Christians. Some Baha'is have become Hindus. Some Jews have become Buddhists.
It’s all true and can be found in their respective scriptures.
So, why do we need to accept the other religions? All we need to do is go to our own religion and see that it's true... that Baha'u'llah is the return of the guy we were expecting.
As I've said close to 100 times before, in Hinduism, it applies to one sect only.
But who's counting. And, unfortunately, who cares? If not for you, who would have known? And if you didn't keep coming back, they'd keep claiming it as if it is fact.
Any Gaudiya Vaishnavism, or any sect believing in Kalki. In Saivism, we don't believe in prophets, period, so Kalki isn't part of it. But nobody at all believes Baha'ullah matches that description whatsoever.
Oops, only one sect has is right? It is the only one that believes Krishna will return as the Kalki Avatar? So, what do Baha'is believe about the other Hindu sects? Are they wrong and hold false teachings?
You know you are talking about minority groups. You cannot use the minority groups to represent the whole. You cannot use unitarian Christians to represent the majority of Christians. Please stop using this dishonest tactic.
Yes, Baha'u'llah doesn't say much, if anything, about Krishna, then suddenly Krishna becomes an important link in the Baha'is concept of "progressive" revelation. But what about the Hindu sects that pre-dated Krishna?
Throughout this thread, you've told us about how you don't actually accept other religions. I'd also say that your attitude of "I only accept parts of what you are, not your whole essence" is pretty intolerant.
Yes, they accept the "truth" in each. Not the stuff that's not true.
And that "only one evolving religion" just happens to be your own, right? Funny, that.
How does Hinduism and Buddhism evolve to Judaism, Christianity, Islam and the Baha'i Faith? And somewhere in there is Zoroastrianism. And again, it leaves out so many other religions.
The Baha'i have no solutions.
They do offer suggestion, maybe solutions? Like they suggest as a solution to war that every nation disarm and elect a World Tribunal to judge between the nations.
Humanism is good and has done good things and will definitely play a major role in improving the world.
But it's almost exactly what you want. Get rid of the dogmas of religions and just keep the good stuff, the virtues.
I can provide the one from the Gita but there is none from the Upanishads. But the people of India did receive guidance in other sources regarding the tenth avatar Kalki.
Again, even the "guidance" you do have, where did it come from? Was it from a person you believe was a manifestation? Or from a man writing about the manifestation?
Those who have not accepted the messiah are In fact the ones that have rejected their religion not us. So a Christian rejects Christ when He returns means he is no longer a Christian in fact although he may still call himself one.
Baha'i do reject the religion by saying they have added in man-made traditions and have misinterpreted their own Scriptures. People within the religion might have accepted the Baha'i interpretation and have joined the Baha'i Faith believing that Baha'u'llah is the one promised in their religion.
What can religions add that makes Humanism more effective? Use facts.
Since you acknowldge humanism is good, why not work with that as the core unifying message? It has the advantage of not including religious assumptions and bias, so superior in that respect.
Yeah, dump the dogmatic beliefs.
Accepting a religion means accepting its core tenets... i.e. the tenets that the religion itself proclaims as fundamental, not the ones that you as an outsider deem important. You've consistently said that this isn't something you're willing to do.
Baha'is can't do that, because they believe most of those core tenets are wrong.
It's pretty arrogant of you to presume that you know someone's religion better than they do.
The claim for some of these is that "the books were sealed". Then Baha'u'llah unsealed them and gave us their true meaning.
The fact that one fringe group of Buddhists believe in something akin to a messiah doesn't mean that the whole rest of Buddhism are somehow "no longer Buddhists."
Kalki is not mentioned in the Bhagavad Gita and only once in the Mahabharata. While the Bhagavad Gita is my secondary scripture to the Upanishads, the Mahabharata as a whole is not a part of my school of Hinduism, and therefore, Kalki is not relevant to my views.
Who is Kalki? Where did those prophecies come from? Why is Buddha included as one of the Avatars but not Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, the Bab, but it jumps from the Ninth Avatar to the Tenth Avatar? And that, for the Baha'is, is Baha'u'llah.
This and the previous post show that you are not even attempting to accept other people's religions, or even to respect them.
So much for your professed goal of mutual acceptance between religions, then.
What you are truly proposing is that everyone should accept a new Messiah to come, even if that makes no sense whatsoever to their own beliefs, creeds and religions.
That's the key. We should all accept each other's religions. That's step one. Next, see that the Scriptures in a religion, or some Scriptures in some sects of some religions, talks about some divine prophet coming back. Who could this be? Next step is to investigate the Baha'i Faith and see that Baha'u'llah is that person.
The Baha'is claim, believe, assert, or are the opinion of.... that Baha'u'llah has fulfilled all the prophecies of all the religions, at least all the major ones. Last step... join the Baha'i Faith and leave behind your old corrupted and wrong beliefs of your old religion. But see how "originally" it was the truth. That there is but one God who sent many messengers/manifestations to guide humanity. In this day we are to follow Baha'u'llah's teachings and laws. It is the true medicine from the true physician that can cure the ills of the world.
Why don't some of us believe them?
