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What If We Admitted to Children That Sex Is Primarily About Pleasure?

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Part of the challenge is that (in my experience) quite often the parents themselves lack a fully mature and resolved approach to their own sexuality.

They can hardly teach that what they never learned themselves.

Couldn't agree more.
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
I know for a brute fact that what is taught to kids about sex means everything.
Kids have enough stuff to worry about, let them be kids for as long as possible.
If a parent wishes to raise lil sex objects, that is their choice.

Sex is not about just pleasure, pleasure is a spin off of making love.
Just as the wonderful taste of food is a spin off of eating it when we are hungry.

I must remind others here, there is no right or wrong answer to this subject.
What one feels about this, is just as valid as what the opposing feels.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Small children? What do you consider, "small?"

Anywhere between 5-10 yrs of age.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about explaining the whole process of sex and sexuality to these kids. But from that very young age a lot of kids have questions. My experience was that I started to learn about what sex was from other kids and then I asked my mum about what I had heard. She was always very good at explaining things to me in a simple way that was appropriate for my age. If it wasn't for my mother being able to talk about this with me, I would have had a very perverted idea of sex.
 

Thana

Lady
And that makes a kid "grow up"?
How so?

Being a kid is being in a constant state of blissful ignorance, Which is necessary for a happy and healthy childhood.

These things should be explained after childhood, But not during. Because then what kind of childhood is it?
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Being a kid is being in a constant state of blissful ignorance, Which is necessary for a happy and healthy childhood.

These things should be explained after childhood, But not during. Because then what kind of childhood is it?

I disagree. I knew about sex from a very early age and had an amazing adventurous and imaginative childhood.
Things that ruin childhood are seeing and learning about the violence in the world. Things that instill fear. Not being told about the nature of sex.
 

Thana

Lady
I disagree. I knew about sex from a very early age and had an amazing adventurous and imaginative childhood.
Things that ruin childhood are seeing and earning about the violence in the world. Not being told about the nature of sex.

I'm not talking about sex alone, I'm talking about how that woman in the article was raising her kid (By telling him everything, Nothing held back)
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
I grew up around a huge assortment of families, one neighbor told her daughter more than she should of, this little girl thought everyone wanted to have sex with even her.

Everything kids her age and adults did, she thought sex was the reason why.
This girl now has kids of her own with more than one guy and the cycle continues.

Kids are too young to understand what sex is.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Being a kid is being in a constant state of blissful ignorance, Which is necessary for a happy and healthy childhood.

I so disagree. Ignorance is no one's friend. And certainly not kid's.

Quite on the contrary, children must be made well aware of how loved they are, but also of which cautions they should take and which dangers they should watch for.


These things should be explained after childhood, But not during. Because then what kind of childhood is it?

One that is not plagued by avoidance? :)
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not talking about sex alone, I'm talking about how that woman in the article was raising her kid (By telling him everything, Nothing held back)

True- I forgot about the article :D (easily distracted)

I do agree that some holding back is advisable.
 

Gehennaite

Active Member
Save the philosophical discourses about nature for mid-to-late adolescence - and make it a choice to participate in such discussions. They need to formulate their own opinions - whether it be about sexuality, politics, or religion.

Nobody should tell you what to think or feel about anything. That's dabbling in the subjective. Education needs to focus on the objective.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Save the philosophical discourses about nature for mid-to-late adolescence - and make it a choice to participate in such discussions. They need to formulate their own opinions - whether it be about sexuality, politics, or religion.

Nobody should tell you what to think or feel about anything. That's dabbling in the subjective. Education needs to focus on the objective.

I feel almost like I have changed threads without noticing.

What good is there in actually hiding what one thinks?
 

Thana

Lady
I so disagree. Ignorance is no one's friend. And certainly not kid's.

Quite on the contrary, children must be made well aware of how loved they are, but also of which cautions they should take and which dangers they should watch for.

One that is not plagued by avoidance? :)

Of course.

That's not what I'm talking about though. Did you read the article?
Her parenting is what I'm refering too.
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Anywhere between 5-10 yrs of age.

My first "sex" talk was at age 7 -- I was told that a penis goes in a vagina and that I should wait until marriage, that was it. I think that sex should be talked about anywhere from 7-10 years of age, just the beginnings, and leave it open to discussion.
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
I know for a brute fact that what is taught to kids about sex means everything.
Kids have enough stuff to worry about, let them be kids for as long as possible.
If a parent wishes to raise lil sex objects, that is their choice.

Talking about sex to your children doesn't make them a sex object. Where in the heavenly heck did you get that idea?
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Save the philosophical discourses about nature for mid-to-late adolescence - and make it a choice to participate in such discussions. They need to formulate their own opinions - whether it be about sexuality, politics, or religion.

By then it can be a little too late.
 

Gehennaite

Active Member
Talking about sex to your children doesn't make them a sex object. Where in the heavenly heck did you get that idea?
Prepubescent individuals are not capable of understanding sexuality the same way pubescent and post-pubescent individuals do. A prepubescent child is not a sexual being.

Individuals cannot even legally consent to sex until their mid-to-late teens. Save this kind of subjective discussion for a time they are cognoscente of their own sexuality.
I feel almost like I have changed threads without noticing.

What good is there in actually hiding what one thinks?
I don't understand the question. Please rephrase it. What are you actually contending?
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
Not if you explain it correctly.

I dont understand why almost all threads you start seem to revolve around you always coming off as a know it all and argue with everyone.
It's almost as if you are trying to convince everyone to adapt to your standards.

On the subject of this OP.
It all depends on the child, the age, etc.
But considering you think sex is primarily about pleasure, if that is what you wish to teach your child, that is your choice.

To me, paying a prostitute for sex is about pleasure.
Making love to ones spouse or life mate, is not just about pleasure and surely is not the main reason.
That is my opinion, why you feel you can tell me I am wrong and others as well is mind boggling.
 
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