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What Is A Social Justice Warrior?

Kirran

Premium Member
But you are talking about legitimate issues here. Not the destroying of property by criminals calling themselves sjw's we seen after the election here in the states.

We can use exonymous terms however we like. MLK was certainly someone who fought for social justice. MLK's civil rights movement was condemned in very similar terms at the time as the progressive movement is nowadays, including groups like BLM.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
So if I'm economically liberal (support welfare etc.) but socially right (anti gay marriage, anti-abortion etc.) what am I like...a...national communist?
I'd simply call that an authoritarian (both left & right elements)
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
But you are talking about legitimate issues here. Not the destroying of property by criminals calling themselves sjw's we seen after the election here in the states.
How is legitimacy decided? Perhaps you should see how MLK and Gandhi was portrayed by many US and British media respectively? Legitimacy is retrospective is it not? Goes for George Washington vs British press too I deem...

Its not as if Gandhi did not burn property or break laws. Or..how about the Boston Tea party?

Are Greek protests against austerity measures legitimate?

How can a protest ever be legitimate in the present? If the protest wins, it will gain legitimacy among the descendants, but not before.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Go.

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Speaking as someone on the left, far-left extremists.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Gandhi sent a letter to Adolf Hitler. It started off like this.



In another letter he said



Let's not forget his interview in 1946.

"In a post-war interview in 1946, he said, "Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs... It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany... As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions."[195] Gandhi believed this act of "collective suicide", in response to the Holocaust, "would have been heroism".[196]" -Excerpt from Wikipedia.

I'm not fond of Gandhi.

This was basically just his pacifism. He refused to condemn anybody absolutely, although certainly he'd deeply oppose their ideas.

As for that last one quote from 1946 - what do you think he's saying there? He's not exactly endorsing the Holocaust or calling for the killing of Jews.

So ... voluntary socialism?

I dunno. Anarchism.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
"Voluntarism" is not a concept which exists within either socialism or capitalism.
The mode of production and exchange you live under is not something you can opt in or out of in a modern world.
It can be. I can create a voluntary association of individuals where we can freely and voluntarily share goods. That would be an example of voluntary (opt-in) socialism.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
But it would still be forced to operate within an overarching capitalistic and liberal-democratic paradigm.
Yes, and I would be against that overarching paradigm, if it involves forced corporatism or forced socialism.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a shame really. Any time a term becomes easily recognizable in both it's literal and ironic sense, it excuses the people using it from any obligation to think about what they're saying.

As it is it can be (and is) used to imply that anyone with any altruistic leanings is automatically a self-serving, hypocritical poser.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Anyone who proclaims Adolf Hitler a friend is not a good person, IMO.

If you need more

When Gandhi was asked about Women being harassed on the street by a Punjabi Student, this was part of Gandhi's response:


One should kill them self before submitting to rape? Not something a progressive says.

When another woman asked Gandhi about how one should protect and honor women, he said:
"I am afraid you do not read Harijan regularly. I discussed this question years ago, and have discussed it often since. The question may be discussed under two heads: (1) how is a woman to protect her own honour? and (2) how are her male relatives to protect it?


I cannot stand this man.

He's talking about some very high ideals, which he even acknowledges aren't reached by everyone.
 
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