What Is A Social Justice Warrior?

[buddhist]

Perhaps we disagree on what coercion is, then.

To what extent do you believe others are responsible for you, or for me?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

But you are talking about legitimate issues here. Not the destroying of property by criminals calling themselves sjw's we seen after the election here in the states.

The question of women's suffrage in Britain was a legitimate issue and didn't stop being such when the Suffragettes, fed up of being ignored or belittled by the Government because they wanted to vote as well, began using violent methods such as destruction of property to get people to listen.

 

[Laika]

Anyone who proclaims Adolf Hitler a friend is not a good person, IMO.

If you need more

When Gandhi was asked about Women being harassed on the street by a Punjabi Student, this was part of Gandhi's response:


One should kill them self before submitting to rape? Not something a progressive says.

When another woman asked Gandhi about how one should protect and honor women, he said:
"I am afraid you do not read Harijan regularly. I discussed this question years ago, and have discussed it often since. The question may be discussed under two heads: (1) how is a woman to protect her own honour? and (2) how are her male relatives to protect it?


I cannot stand this man.

That's pretty stunning. Thanks for posting as I never knew this.

 

[Kirran]

To what extent do you believe others are responsible for you, or for me?

Like, a bit?

 

[sayak83]

Bah. Don't contribute to the worship of that man. He was reactionary outside of the independence movement.

My reply does not require an extensive character analysis of Gandhi or anyone. Gandhi was more progressive than 99% of Indians in his day and most people in his time. Even if 50% of his views were wrong, what of it? Great men and women are not admired because they got everything right, but that they got a few things rights and acted on them in such a fashion that it made a difference. And Gandhi was not alone, around him were Jawharlal Nehru with excellent understanding of history and foreign policy, and women like Sarojini Naidu . Nobody thought him to be God or right in everything, but he was admired for the things that he was right about and the way he brought them into fruition.

 

[Ultimatum]

So if I'm economically liberal (support welfare etc.) but socially right (anti gay marriage, anti-abortion etc.) what am I like...a...national communist?

I'm afraid I cannot marry you, as I am a classical liberal.

 

[David1967]

How is legitimacy decided? Perhaps you should see how MLK and Gandhi was portrayed by many US and British media respectively? Legitimacy is retrospective is it not? Goes for George Washington vs British press too I deem...

Its not as if Gandhi did not burn property or break laws. Or..how about the Boston Tea party?

Are Greek protests against austerity measures legitimate?

How can a protest ever be legitimate in the present? If the protest wins, it will gain legitimacy among the descendants, but not before.

True. But different time.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

"The right". Why do people insist on using such useless labels?

I think the useless label ship sailed when we started with the whole "SJW" thing.

Please make the distinction between social and economic right. I don't want to be lumped in with Trumpets.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

To what extent do you believe others are responsible for you, or for me?

I think the more important question is how responsible I am for others.

 

[buddhist]

I think the more important question is how responsible I am for others.

I agree, that's a better question, and it implies voluntarily responsibility.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I agree, that's a better question, and it implies voluntarily responsibility.

It implies nothing of the sort. Responsibility isn't voluntary.

 

[buddhist]

It implies nothing of the sort. Responsibility isn't voluntary.

I think you're confusing responsibility with obligation.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think you're confusing responsibility with obligation.

A responsibility is an obligation with accountability. What do you think "responsibility" means?

 

[buddhist]

A responsibility is an obligation with accountability. What do you think "responsibility" means?

"Responsibility" is something an individual assumes as a personal obligation.
If someone else forces that individual to do something, the former is imposing an involuntary obligation on the latter.

 

[icehorse]

My take on the OP:

The moment your criticism of another person's speech crosses over from criticism to an attempt to stifle, you've become a SJW.

 

[Kirran]

My take on the OP:

The moment your criticism of another person's speech crosses over from criticism to an attempt to stifle, you've become a SJW.

Does one draw the line somewhere? Is it cool for the KKK to go up and preach their stuff, is it cool for Anjem Choudary and pals to freely promote their views, should we try and stop that? Should we protest at places where they're allowed to speak?

 

[Shad]

Go.

"Leftist" that have separated themselves from typical liberalism of the left that complain over trivial issue. Like the Women's March speakers such as a convicted murder and torturer along side a woman that thinks Sharia in KSA is great. Or people being upset over using the wrong pronoun, speech they do not like and being offend at almost anything

 

[Shad]

My google cannot find what the word means,so you should perhaps...

Try Youtube. You may regret doing so

 

[Shad]

Does one draw the line somewhere? Is it cool for the KKK to go up and preach their stuff, is it cool for Anjem Choudary and pals to freely promote their views, should we try and stop that? Should we protest at places where they're allowed to speak?

Protest yes. Demanding silence, no.

 

[icehorse]

Does one draw the line somewhere? Is it cool for the KKK to go up and preach their stuff, is it cool for Anjem Choudary and pals to freely promote their views, should we try and stop that? Should we protest at places where they're allowed to speak?

We have to let Neo-Nazis march in Jewish communities. We have to let the Choudarys of the world spew. We can and should protest and criticize them loudly. We should NOT stifle their ability to speak.