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What is an anti-semite?

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
I don't have answers to your questions, but they don't defeat my contention that Jews are relatively powerful & secure.
Just look at the US & their tremendous influence in Hollywood & government. Israel is quite secure, with US assistance & guarantees of defense.
I cannot believe I am saying this, but that is just U.S. influence. What about the U.N? How powerful are they when to international influence?
 
Why would I dislike "Christians" or "Jews", I prefer judging individuals.



I mean these types of comments are usually not the most helpful

You are right judging individuals is better.
I must admit my comments could be seen as inflammatory but that is how I see it.
 

Bismillah

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Why? How about the countries sort this out? Why should this be the responsibility of the UN?
Don't worry Israel already has America's veto lock stock and barrel. And in the chance that AIPAC doesn't manage to dictate foreign policy it's not like Israel has ever been bothered by International law and rulings before.
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
The Jewish population is not that powerful. They just know which battles to fight and how to fight them. That's not power. That's intelligence.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Anti-Semitism is a myth, at least in today's world. Jews are too powerful to be victims, anyway.

Although anti-semitism exists, and is very far from being a myth, I would suggest the charge that someone is being anti-semitic has largely lost any significance or importance in America political discourse, where even the merest whiff of a criticism of Israel is almost routinely met with charges of "anti-semitism". See, for instance, the irrational charges of anti-semitism that are reflexively levied against Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com whenever he makes highly substantiated criticisms of Israeli Government policies, etc. It is a pity the word has been so devalued by mindless usage.

As for the notion that Jews are too powerful to be victims: There are middle schoolers who can see through that one. Perhaps Chisti should practice his intellectual skills by asserting that apples do not often fall from trees, or that honeybees do not sometimes sting people. Either contention would be more plausible than the notion someone -- or some group -- cannot be victimized in this tragic world. Moreover, the notion that someone or some group is too powerful to be victimized appears on the surface to have the ugly intention of setting that person or group up for victimization.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Jewish population is not that powerful. They just know which battles to fight and how to fight them. That's not power. That's intelligence.
If it has the effect of exercising power, then it is.
But that is a side issue.
Jews just don't seem to be victimized any more than other religious groups, nor to the extent they have been throughout history.
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Although anti-semitism exists, and is very far from being a myth, I would suggest the charge that someone is being anti-semitic has largely lost any significance or importance in America political discourse, where even the merest whiff of a criticism of Israel is almost routinely met with charges of "anti-semitism". See, for instance, the irrational charges of anti-semitism that are reflexively levied against Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com whenever he makes highly substantiated criticisms of Israeli Government policies, etc. It is a pity the word has been so devalued by mindless usage.

This is not unique to the Jewish people, though. Yet, networks such as MSNBC decry racism at people who do not support Barack Obama.

As for the notion that Jews are too powerful to be victims: There are middle schoolers who can see through that one. Perhaps Chisti should practice his intellectual skills by asserting that apples do not often fall from trees, or that honeybees do not sometimes sting people. Either contention would be more plausible than the notion someone -- or some group -- cannot be victimized in this tragic world. Moreover, the notion that someone or some group is too powerful to be victimized appears on the surface to have the ugly intention of setting that person or group up for victimization.

:clap
 

Bismillah

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This is not unique to the Jewish people, though. Yet, networks such as MSNBC decry racism at people who do not support Barack Obama.
Call me crazy but when people insist on the birth certificate for a President or portray him as a chimpanzee there is some obvious racism going on. What IS unique is Israel and its lobby's appropriation of the word anti-semitism as a be all end all word to denounce any activity that goes against its goals.

It has become, at times, a misnomer and a political tool similar to the word "terrorism".
 

HiddenDjinn

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Call me crazy but when people insist on the birth certificate for a President or portray him as a chimpanzee there is some obvious racism going on. What IS unique is Israel and its lobby's appropriation of the word anti-semitism as a be all end all word to denounce any activity that goes against its goals.

It has become, at times, a misnomer and a political tool similar to the word "terrorism".
Yeah, just like your word for an Israeli Jew: Colonist.
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Call me crazy but when people insist on the birth certificate for a President or portray him as a chimpanzee there is some obvious racism going on.

Was it racism to portray George Bush as a Chimpanzee? For the record, I am a registered Democrat and a staunch leftist.

What IS unique is Israel and its lobby's appropriation of the word anti-semitism as a be all end all word to denounce any activity that goes against its goals.

It has become, at times, a misnomer and a political tool similar to the word "terrorism".

The State of Israel and AIPAC uses the word anti-Semitic to further its agenda. Jesse Jackson uses the words "racist" and "prejudice" every time a black person is shot by a cop. Does that mean that the words "racist" and "prejudice" should no longer be used?
 

Bismillah

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Was it racism to portray George Bush as a Chimpanzee? For the record, I am a registered Democrat and a staunch leftist.
There is an entire thread devoted to it, but the cases are different you would be pretty disingenuous not to acknowledge it.

Africans have been portrayed in a certain manner in history, like it or not that IS the connotation that is associated with those pictures. You can argue about intention or meaning, but we don't live in some type of isolated bubble and things such as this

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Are obvious throwbacks to racism.

The State of Israel and AIPAC uses the word anti-Semitic to further its agenda. Jesse Jackson uses the words "racist" and "prejudice" every time a black person is shot by a cop. Does that mean that the words "racist" and "prejudice" should no longer be used?
It means that instances where they are evoked should be scrutinized to differ between issues of racism and a smear tactic used against critical opponents.
 
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Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
There is an entire thread devoted to it, but the cases are different you would be pretty disingenuous not to acknowledge it.

Africans have been portrayed in a certain manner in history, like it or not that IS the connotation that is associated with those pictures. You can argue about intention or meaning, but we don't live in some type of isolated bubble and things such as this

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Are obvious throwbacks to racism.

I cannot see the picture, but not all instances of coincidence are necessarily racist. For instance, there is a stereotype about white people that we are racists. Does that mean pictures of Bush as Hitler are racist and offensive towards white people?


It means that instances where they are evoked should be scrutinized to differ between issues of racism and a smear tactic used against critical opponents.

I assent.
 
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