Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
That's not "indistinguishable."
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What is God made of?
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Cute. Irrelevant, but cute. :yes:
As a Panendeist I think God is made of everything... and also made of God
Is there a difference between panendeism and panentheism?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Not really. I went to a panendeist forum to learn more, and came away with the conclusion that they invented a new word because they didn't quite grasp the original.
ETA: Revision: Panentheism is a broader category.
waitasec
Veteran Member
fair enough.
Me Myself
Back to my username
Humm maybe I am a panantheist then :ninja:
What was the difference again?
I just read somewhere lately that panendeist feels he can treach mystic union with God through meditation and inner work, but probably better search out the term a bit more.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
The difference was explained to me thusly:Humm maybe I am a panantheist then :ninja:
What was the difference again?
I just read somewhere lately that panendeist feels he can treach mystic union with God through meditation and inner work, but probably better search out the term a bit more.
"Panentheism is a subset of theism, while panendeism is a subset of deism."
The first statement is patently false, and the second nonsensical.
Panentheism can be similar to theism in interpretation, however, it is no more a subset of theism than of atheism.
Deism, otoh is classically a subset of theism itself, differing only on the belief of intervention.
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Does panentheism include a belief in preternatural agency?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Almost certainly not necessarily.
Panentheism is as broad and diverse as theism, in truth, and I would never presume to speak for all panentheists on any point of theology beyond the basic premise that God encompasses our reality, rather than remaining separate.
That said, if you clarify precisely what you mean by preternatural, I'd be happy to tell you the answers I've encountered.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
theirreverentconcubine
Member
Is that why fundies occur? Using all their imagination to make god?
outhouse
Atheistically
born of mythology and mainstreamed into the modern reality of billions of people
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
I don't know about measured or weighed.. but detected, sure. I'd say all energy resulted from His infinite energy. So we detect it all the time.
But you can't really measure and weigh something infinite. Right?
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Of course you can. Why not?
theirreverentconcubine
Member
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Of course you can. Why not?
There's the scientist.
I'm not familiar with any method doing so.. But you two are, so would you share it? Then perhaps i'll tell you again where you can begin measuring and weighing.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Well, infinite quantities of energy into any finite volume is going to produce a black hole immediately. That'd be fairly visible.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Bacon.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Really? I don't know much about black holes. And I didn't know scientists had figured that much out. How new is that information?
I don't have an argument for that, because I don't know much, if anything relevant about black holes. But, I do have a question. If the universe started as the infinite and miniscule thing it did, and is now expanding, was it within a finite volume as well or an infinite one?
outhouse
Atheistically
we are able to measure something that happened roughly 13.6 billion years ago but never has anything ever measured been percieved as a deity born of mythology.