What is God?

[starguy1942]

It's a reflection. What I say does not create reality, but what I say can remind and prove something about reality, if you observe reality in the proper reflect way.

No, it does NOT IN ANY WAY remind and prove something about reality. BACK UP! look at what you are saying and ask why you are saying it!

 

[Link]

Now you say:
"Naturally, they are the best things to look at to a prove a mystical being."
Again, nonsensical statements. Make 'em up as you go along. If they sound nice, they must be true, right?

There's nothing irrational about what I'm saying. Who we are if God exists would be a soul. How can we know it's a soul? What is a soul? What makes it linked to God and his vision?

We can start a journey to truth but have to look inward.

There are signs of God in the self, and probably the easiest way to see God.

 

[Link]

No, it does NOT IN ANT WAY remind and prove something about reality. BACK UP! look at what you are saying and ask why you are saying it!

You are just attacking conclusion. You are not even addressing the content in an intellectual way. Maybe, it's put some perspective you want to run away from?

 

[starguy1942]

IF YOU COULD REASON WITH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, THERE WOULD BE NO RELIGIOUS PEOPLE

 

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IF YOU COULD REASON WITH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, THERE WOULD BE NO RELIGIOUS PEOPLE

And Conjecture does not avail regarding the truth a thing - Quran, Surah Yunos.

 

[starguy1942]

You are just attacking conclusion. You are not even addressing the content in an intellectual way. Maybe, it's put some perspective you want to run away from?

There's nothing to run away from. No, I'm not just attacking the conclusion, I am fully attacking the silly premise fo the conclusions.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Why say that God is the whole universe? That has no logical meaning whatsoever to blithely state that a non-existent, ethereal figment of human need and imagination can be anything at all, let alone the entire universee!

I know. I am still trying to solidify my beliefs.

 

[Link]

There's nothing to run away from. No, I'm not just attacking the conclusion, I am fully attacking the silly premise fo the conclusions.

How have you addressed the premises. Perhaps reword it so I can see that.

 

[starguy1942]

And Conjecture does not avail regarding the truth a thing - Quran, Surah Yunos.

then you should cease with careless conjecture

 

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then you should cease with careless conjecture

You are being way too emotional. Take your time to analyze what I said. Respond calm and in detail and with reflection. Provide explanation when denying a premise, not simply deny it or attack it.

 

[starguy1942]

I know. I am still trying to solidify my beliefs.

trying to solidify beliefs is like trying to solidify soap bubbles. Don't do it. Pick one belief at a time and verify it or discard it

 

[starguy1942]

You are being way too emotional. Take your time to analyze what I said. Respond calm and in detail and with reflection. Provide explanation when denying a premise, not simply deny it or attack it.

show me where god lives... and don't say everywhere

 

[Link]

I know. I am still trying to solidify my beliefs.

Look inward, do good deeds, shut off the irrational doubt from the uncleanness/dark shadow of the soul by overpowering it with noble certainty and vision of God's truth in the soul and horizons and in the signs around you.

Do not hesitate - take that leap of faith.

 

[Link]

show me where god lives... and don't say everywhere

In you and with you, everywhere else does not matter, he lives in you.

 

[ChristineM]

Salam

If you want, we can have one on one discussion on one argument, the seeing argument. It can be broken down to either three premises or four (I can structure it either way) or I even done it with two premises.

I believe it's very clear through that, that God exists. If you can provide alternative explanation on the objective value of the self and accountability of its deeds and it raising in rank or going down, I am all ears.

We've had such discussion in the past. You have your view, but cannot provide falsifiable evidence for your view. I have my view but cannot provide falsifiable evidence for my claims.

I can however provide anecdotal evidence that at least selected claims of the Abrahamic god cannot exist. You won't accept this so... No point in arguing

 

[Link]

We've had such discussion in the past. You have your view, but cannot provide falsifiable evidence for your view. I have my view but cannot provide falsifiable evidence for my claims.

I can however provide anecdotal evidence that at least selected claims of the Abrahamic god cannot exist. You won't accept this so... No point in arguing

Salam

Have we had a discussion on this argument though? I do not recall it, I recall other arguments, but not this one. This is one is my favorite.

 

[ChristineM]

Salam

Have we had a discussion on this argument though? I do not recall it, I recall other arguments, but not this one. This is one is my favorite.

Similar enough for me.

We will never come to agreement on the subject.

 

[Link]

Similar enough for me.

We will never come to agreement on the subject.

Never say never in neverland?

Okay maybe, if you ever want one on one debate about that argument, send me a message and let me know.

 

[Aupmanyav]

What is God?: IMHO, God is what we make him to be.

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

What is God?: IMHO, God is what we make him to be.

What people believe to be perfect will change over time. In fact, I bet if you took a 1st century Christian and a 21st century Christian their views on Jesus would probably be quite different. Atheists just believe that perfection is impossible. Is it? No. Perfection is possible, if things can change to revaluate what that perfection is.

In many ways I have made my reality, myself and my environment exactly the way it could be and I don't ask for more. I live in a one-bedroom apartment. My rent is dirt cheap. I own so many things I've always wanted. I live in a safe part of the city, in a suburb. The food I buy at the store is easy to prepare. I take care of myself and if something breaks, I either fix it or throw it out.

Creating a perfect environment is essential to healthy living, and to a happy and joyous post-life as well. The post-human will make our reality exactly how we want, and because of hybrid consciousness we'll be able to transfer our soul to anything we could imagine. I imagine there will be a lot of bodies in Hell, but not many consciousness. Maybe a few theistic Satanists will want to party with Satan.

We create the reality we wish to exist in. Right now, I've been spending a lot of time here trying to advocate for the position of a perfect environment. And in many ways, this is the perfect environment we need. An avenue to express our religious and political beliefs without the fear of being called crazy or getting physically abused for being so.

This forum attracts people who are in many ways just like me.