What is immoral about casual and friendly sex between adults?

[Cooky]

WTF does "atheism" have to do with it?

It's way to differentiate those posters from the theists here.. WTF DID YOU THINK..!!?

 

[Polymath257]

Nothing, if it is between you and your wife. If you do it with someone else’s wife, it is adultery and against God’s laws.

Which God? For some Gods, it is no issue.

 

[ppp]

(actual measurement of 130 US gallons)

What a divine puree! :-D

 

[Polymath257]

Check the Abrahamic religions. God forbade it. No, you don't need to know why.

Which is one reason (among many) that I reject those religions.

 

[Cooky]

That would depend on the agreement with his wife. Some people have a 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy. It isn't for me, but some live by it.

The immorality is breaking an agreement with one's spouse.

So there is an immoral aspect. Thanks for popping in again.

May I ask why it's immoral to break an agreement, when an agreement is just an imaginary concept?

 

[Polymath257]

But why is cheating wrong in a traditional closed marriage? Especially if someone only wants part-time gay sex, once in a great while.

The immorality is breaking an agreement, especially with a spouse (for whom there is supposed to be a bond of trust).

The sex isn't the issue. The agreement and the violation of that agreement is.

 

[Piculet]

I said I follow Jesus, not Paul. Paul had some good and useful things to say, but some of his advice is specific to that time and place. I think God would be more understanding, especially since we don't live in the 1st century Judean Roman Empire and our culture is totally different. Dating in the modern Western world is very difficult. It's hard enough to find a spouse.

Aside all the excuses, what does sexual immorality mean to you?

 

[Polymath257]

So there is an immoral aspect. Thanks for popping in again.

May I ask why it's immoral to break an agreement, when an agreement is just an imaginary concept?

Well, morality is all about how we interact with others. So, yes, the agreement is the bond made between the people. It is immoral to break it without previous negotiation.

 

[Piculet]

Have you seen the statistics?

No. I doubt there are any, but I'm happy to be presented some. Only, they really should accompany any such accusation.

 

[Polymath257]

Aside all the excuses, what does sexual immorality mean to you?

Sex isn't immoral at all. Breaking agreements and promises is immoral.

 

[McBell]

It's way to differentiate those posters from the theists here.. WTF DID YOU THINK..!!?

Either you are not intelligent enough to engage in meaningful discourse or you are to dishonest to engage in meaningful discourse.

Since you flat out admitted to dishonesty.....


Either way, you "win".

Good day.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Aside all the excuses, what does sexual immorality mean to you?

No one's making excuses. I'm telling you about reality, which you seem to know little about. I would define sexual immorality as harmful, irresponsible sexual behavior. I do think monogamous marriage is the ideal (I do not support polygamy or polyamory, personally) but no one is perfect.

 

[Cooky]

It was more of an exercise for you to engage dishonestly with false questions and vague statements for some obvious ambushes in pursuit of a hollow victory. But then we all knew that.

Have a great rest of your day.

 

[Piculet]

Either you are not intelligent enough to engage in meaningful discourse or you are to dishonest to engage in meaningful discourse.

Since you flat out admitted to dishonesty.....


Either way, you "win".

Good day.

I think he made a really good point — if I understood it at all. Atheists do borrow the diluted moral standards of the Christians but refuse to admit it.

 

[Polymath257]

It seems that you do as you please. I want to do what pleases God.

I don't believe there is a God to please. But I know people exist.

So, for me, morality is all about how to maximize human fulfillment.

 

[Piculet]

No one's making excuses. I'm telling you about reality, which you seem to know little about. I would define sexual immorality as harmful, irresponsible sexual behavior. I do think monogamous marriage is the ideal (I do not support polygamy or polyamory, personally) but no one is perfect.

And at what age would you advise your daughter to do what the OP proposes — Seeing as there is no "harm" in casual sex?

 

[Piculet]

So, for me, morality is all about how to maximize human fulfillment.

Yours or others?

 

[Cooky]

Either you are not intelligent enough to engage in meaningful discourse or you are to dishonest to engage in meaningful discourse.

Since you flat out admitted to dishonesty.....


Either way, you "win".

Good day.

Of course I'm a liar. But in reality, I'm mostly an atheist who despises his own atheism, and his own deceitfulness. I do wish I could be a better person. I don’t know if thats my own weakness, or if it's some kind of righteousness calling my name.

...Maybe some day I'll know. Or I won't know anything.

 

[Polymath257]

Your standards of morality?

We don't make up standards of morality. We hear what God says. You are free to do that too, but you'd rather invent something that allows you to do whatever you want.

No, some people claim to speak or write for a God and tell others what to believe with no evidence to back them up.

Morality is about how people relate to other people. So, yes, we make up standards of morality. Some people claim their standards are from God. But there is no good reason to believe their claims that I can see.

 

[Polymath257]

Yours or others?

Yes. For all.