What is the definition of a "Woman"?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Perhaps you missed the context. As a potential
SCOTUS justice, any definition she'd give would
have to be legally sound. She could easily know
she's female, without knowing a definition that
would apply generally in a court of law.

I get the feeling you're speaking to those whose minds are fixated on something else. If they begin to understand what you're saying, they'll immediately pretend they never saw your post.

And I mean that....I'm seeing it over and over and over and over again.

 

[We Never Know]

What does it matter whether I think somebody who was born male can "understand what it feels like to be a woman?" It matters whether the person who feels as if THEY are female. And who I am to tell them that their feelings are wrong? For that matter, who are you?

All I'm asking is how can a male know how it feels to be a female?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Ignorant voters are people who can’t tell when someone is simply acting out a gender roll in the drama of life. If gender isn’t real then neither is race or even classification as human. Ketanji Brown Jackson might be a white male dolphin depending on what it wants to be. It’s identity could change throughout the day.

So, you pronounce and the entire medical and psychological professions should bow because you are qualified .... well, how exactly?

Please explain your research and studies in this area, so that we can understand your expertise.

Or do you just look at your willy and figure that's what everybody does?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

I would tell the shack owner that they are wrong. I would address the uterus owner as he wishes. I don't see the genitals of most of the people, I meet. Let alone their internal organs. Unlike a house, people are complicated, and most of the time when I am using gendered pronouns I am not talking about genitals or chromosomes. I am referring to presentation.

This is fine. I do not have a problem with pronouns. The problem is when a guy with male organs wants to play sports with women because he really IS a woman. He really is NOT a woman. He also could call himself a horse but is not one.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

I think that pronouns primarily refer to gender, and not sex. So, I have to reject your analogy

Again, no problem with pronouns. Anyone can call themselves anything they want. A white dude can call himself black or an asian guy can say he is hispanic. That does not mean we should give him something to change his skin color. So why give someone something to change their sex organs? The problem is in their head, not their organs and we should help them understand the truth.

 

[Revoltingest]

I get the feeling you're speaking to those whose minds are fixated on something else. If they begin to understand what you're saying, they'll immediately pretend they never saw your post.

And I mean that....I'm seeing it over and over and over and over again.

I reached my limit of coping with unproductive conversation.
I was concerned that next we should expect a justice to
answer questions like how much the human soul weighs,
or whether all dogs go to Heaven.

 

[We Never Know]

What does it matter whether I think somebody who was born male can "understand what it feels like to be a woman?" It matters whether the person who feels as if THEY are female. And who I am to tell them that their feelings are wrong? For that matter, who are you?

"What does it matter whether I think somebody who was born male can "understand what it feels like to be a woman?" It matters whether the person who feels as if THEY are female."

That's my point. How do they know how a female feels?

 

[ppp]

This is fine. I do not have a problem with pronouns. The problem is when a guy with male organs wants to play sports with women because he really IS a woman. He really is NOT a woman. He also could call himself a horse but is not one.

She really is a woman. You probably have a good argument that she isn't female. But we are still working out the language. As for the sports...that will work itself out.

 

[ppp]

Again, no problem with pronouns. .

Since your examples of trans people all involve your use of their non-preferred pronoun, I am dubious about that claim.

A white dude can call himself black or an asian guy can say he is hispanic. That does not mean we should give him something to change his skin color.

I don't agree with either of those statements. Most of being a given race is one's perceived nature and role in society. It's not about actual biology its about social classes. If you change the white guy's skin color then he will be treated differently by society. Racial identity is imposed.

So why give someone something to change their sex organs? The problem is in their head, not their organs and we should help them understand the truth.

Because every study we have says that trying to change their identity makes their inner life worse, and changing their bodies to confirm their identity makes their inner lives better. And quite frankly, the choice doesn't need justification. You need justification to stop a person from having GCS.

 

[We Never Know]

She really is a woman. You probably have a good argument that she isn't female. But we are still working out the language. As for the sports...that will work itself out.

What does science say... ie what does biology say?

Isn't it always about the science?

How can we expect others to accept the biology of evolution if we deny the biology of male/female.

 

[ppp]

What does science say... ie what does biology say?

About what?

Isn't it always about the science?

I don't understand the question.

How can we expect others to accept the biology of evolution if we deny the biology of male/female.

I am talking about the terms man and woman.

 

[We Never Know]

What does science says... ie what does biology say?

Isn't it always about the science?

About what?

I don't understand the question.

I am talking about the terms man and woman.

"About what?"

About salad, what else. I guess there is no reason to go any further.

 

[ppp]

About salad, what else. I guess there is no reason to go any further.

Yes. About what? I made four (4) distinct statements. Which one are you referring to? I am not a freakin' mind reader.

She really is a woman. You probably have a good argument that she isn't female. But we are still working out the language. As for the sports...that will work itself out.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes. About what? I made four (4) distinct statements. Which one are you referring to? I am not a freakin' mind reader.

I added and bolded. Help that clears it up for you.

What does science say... ie what does biology say about what is female?

Isn't it always about the science?

How can we expect others to accept the biology of evolution if we deny the biology of male/female.

 

[ppp]

I added and bolded. Help that clears it up for you.

What does science say... ie what does biology say about what is female?

Isn't it always about the science?

How can we expect others to accept the biology of evolution if we deny the biology of male/female.

I feel as though you are not listening to me.

How can we expect others to accept the biology of evolution if we deny the biology of male/female.

I am talking about the terms man and woman.

If that doesn't sink in, then we are not talking about the same thing.

 

[Kfox]

Except that some mental disorders are chemical imbalances, and that is biological. How the brain functions can be affected by low blood glucose and other deficiencies, so there are many biological elements to our mental state.

But whatever mental disorders a person might have, it has no effect on their sexual biology. IOW a mental disorder is not gonna turn a biological man into a biological woman.

 

[Kfox]

Then you are talking about sex, and not gender.

Biological sex is real (science) Gender (as you describe it) is make-believe.

 

[Colt]

So, you pronounce and the entire medical and psychological professions should bow because you are qualified .... well, how exactly?

Please explain your research and studies in this area, so that we can understand your expertise.

Or do you just look at your willy and figure that's what everybody does?

The assertion that the entire medical and phycological profession are in agreement isn't true. Pop culture bias drowns out dissenting voices. Its become a PC issue.

Gender reassignment is acting. To play the part some actors go so far as to modify their true bodies. Its in character 24/7. When Bruce Jenner decided to become Caitlyn Jenner, he took on an acting roll as a women. He gets a lot of attention now, attention that faded away from his previous sports career.

 

[Colt]

Really? So if a man identifies as a woman, or a woman indentfies as a man... You accept that without question?

I try to be accepting to all people with mental illness.

 

[We Never Know]

I try to me accepting to all people with mental illness.

I see. You accept it based on it being a mental illness.