What is the Left (politically)?

[Estro Felino]

No, they didn't win as for a majority and it has nothing to do with Macron being president as that is another part of the French system.

In fact I didn't say it dealt with a presidential election.
But another politician would have resigned instead of being in a cohabitation with a Left that has nothing to do with that horrific elitist ideology Macron stands for.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, in a democratic system, if the people vote someone out, they gotta go. But even that can get complicated when there's so many people out there making allegations about voter fraud and crooked elections. Theoretically, both sides may agree that the government should faithfully carry out the "will of the people," but nobody is ever really quite sure what the "will of the people" actually is at any given moment.

And even then, in practice, a lot of leaders don't seem to care much about what the people actually want, as much as they try to persuade people what they need or what they should want. Some might even develop a messianic complex where they decide that they know what's best for the people, even if they don't want it.

We are speaking of a man who married his high school teacher.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

In fact I didn't say it dealt with a presidential election.
But another politician would have resigned instead of being in a cohabitation with a Left that has nothing to do with that horrific elitist ideology Macron stands for.

Yeah, that is your opinion.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

We are speaking of a man who married his high school teacher.

Yeah, as if that is really relevant other than to people who obsess over such things.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yeah, as if that is really relevant other than to people who obsess over such things.

Imagine if the POTUS had married his high school student.
An army of feminists would have skinned him alive.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Imagine if the POTUS had married his high school student.
An army of feminists would have skinned him alive.

Whatever.

 

[Stevicus]

Honestly I think that the French electoral system is the most shady, the most fraudulent in all of Europe.
They need two elections...which already gives more time to deceive.

Ours is very transparent. Whoever gets the majority of votes, becomes Prime Minister.

I have found reason to question the ways and means of democracy and elections, but on the other hand, I recognize that there is no "perfect" system out there. What we have is what we have. My only real complaint is when people try to make it out to be larger than life and try to work it into some grand crusade and global struggle against evil.

I don't see where supporting a democratic form of government should mean signing on to some kind of epic world-wide struggle of "good vs. evil."

 

[Stevicus]

We are speaking of a man who married his high school teacher.

That happens sometimes. Sometimes, there's an age-gap between couples in a marriage.

 

[Estro Felino]

I have found reason to question the ways and means of democracy and elections, but on the other hand, I recognize that there is no "perfect" system out there. What we have is what we have. My only real complaint is when people try to make it out to be larger than life and try to work it into some grand crusade and global struggle against evil.

I don't see where supporting a democratic form of government should mean signing on to some kind of epic world-wide struggle of "good vs. evil."

I think that what we can all agree on is that war is evil.


But what is even more evil is that there are politicians who love war and want to normalize it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Same thing?

Nah. The green quandrant includes many Leftists, but libertarian-socialism is nearer to the bottom corner of that quadrant.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

At least in Russia there is free universal healthcare.

Not worth it if it means you can't protest the state amd don't get to have free, fair and open elections.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not worth it if it means you can't protest the state amd don't get to have free, fair and open elections.

Are you serious?
So it is better a person dies because the money-hungry physicians want thousands of dollars to cure them?

I am speechless.

 

[Stevicus]

I think that what we can all agree on is that war is evil.

But what is even more evil is that there are politicians who love war and want to normalize it.

Through much of human history, politicians have loved war and normalized it. But at least in the past, they were honest about it. Nowadays, they try to make it appear as if it's something else. They try to make it appear like they're more noble and enlightened than politicians were 100 or 1000 years ago.

 

[Estro Felino]

Through much of human history, politicians have loved war and normalized it. But at least in the past, they were honest about it. Nowadays, they try to make it appear as if it's something else. They try to make it appear like they're more noble and enlightened than politicians were 100 or 1000 years ago.

Standing ovation.

Yes...their phoniness is unbearable.
Pushing for war, while pretending to be a saint.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Imagine if the POTUS had married his high school student.
An army of feminists would have skinned him alive.

Imagine a president that has affairs with porn stars and who just grabs women by the p... euh... 'kitten'

That doesn't seem to bother you, so why would someone marrying their teacher bother you?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Standing ovation.

Yes...their phoniness is unbearable.
Pushing for war, while pretending to be a saint.

Yeah. Perfect description of Vladimir Putin.

 

[Ebionite]

Not always. Consider the Tao Te Ching, where the strong general stands at the right, and the wise counselor stands at the left.

Fair enough. I'm focusing on the Abrahamic traditions because that's what I'm familiar with.

 

[Argentbear]

Imagine if the POTUS had married his high school student.
An army of feminists would have skinned him alive.

Why would they do that to the student?