Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
nothing saying you can't exist without purpose.
That would be quite nice in a way.
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nothing saying you can't exist without purpose.
I don't think there exists a purpose. However if you want one, you can create one. Otherwise, nothing saying you can't exist without purpose.
Yes, 'may' implies possibility - that is why I used that word.Perhaps this is a question of taste. I prefer to use "what if" or some such for speculation that is not based on facts. "May" implies permission or possibility.
Some have not found it a significant task to consider life with purpose. Some feel that putpose results in being held responsible. Some feel that having a purpose will will allow/cause failure.Category errors: these questions are meaningless.
Life is not the sort of "thing" that has meaning, existance is not the sort of "thing" that has purpose. Neither is a thing.
In reading through. If one is to look at all known life. If one believes evolution and can follow the path that life took to reach today. With all this knowledge is it really true we don't know the purpose of life or don't want to admit it. For me it reads pretty easily.
Did you ever consider the possibility that there might not be? Seriously and repeatedly consider it?
But theism provides the only explanation for why there is something rather than nothing.
It's been explained to you repeatedly and at great length that is not the case. Obviously what you choose to believe is up to you.
What is the meaning of life? What is the purpose of existence?
I think our meaning & purpose is to answer that question?
We are utterly unique in our ability to ask it, to explore nature and the universe, to question our own existence, our own lives and deduce that there is a higher purpose to it all.
I see. You're actually making a good point. Purpose appears to be indeterminate or even infinite. But I believe the traditional view of teleology/final causality addresses this very issue you raise.
"Every thing is directed to good as its end." - St. Thomas Aquinas
Well, it addresses it only if there must necessarily be an ultimate purpose. But it smells like question begging. There is no evidence whatsoever that things cannot work without an ultimate purpose.
I haven't seen any such explanation.
To live. I know that sounds simplistic, but I honestly think that should be our focus - how do make a good life, how to experience life and find the things that have meaning for you. I'm not sure there's much point to seeking for some overarching external meaning when it can't be verified, and the internal meaning we can find for ourselves is available to us right now and for a limited time. We choose the purpose of our life We choose what it means.What is the meaning of life? What is the purpose of existence?
We have direct evidence accorded to us by our own first-person perspective that each and everyone of us are seeking "the good as our end." The ultimate good is known as God. This qualifies as a teleological argument for the existence of God.
Yes, but it is very question begging.
It assumes a teleology when there might be none. Seeking X, does not entail that there is a X.
Seeking X (the good) does imply that you are purpose-driven (which is what teleology is). Whether you achieve it or not is another issue.