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What is the NATO?

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Because I WAS asking one poster about their experiences. I did find the answers to my questions after a bit though. On various graphs.
No, you weren't. I showed you multiple times that you asked about "countries" and general topics, not personal experiences in one country. I quoted your post more than once. It's weird that you keep claiming this, despite it being proven false so many times.
Interesting that you can't seem to manage it. Oh well.
Not really. You provided yourself the further info you needed to find the info you wanted. You didn't provide me that extra info. You provided very broad, vague questions. So, yes, obviously when you used more details to find more specific info you wanted, that was doable. And obviously I can't do that until you provide me the same info you provided yourself.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
To recap, here are your questions again:

What's the tax rate for countries offering "universal healthcare?"

There are a ton of countries that do this. The tax rate varies. There are income taxes, VAT taxes and many other taxes. If you provided yourself more info, like "What are the income tax rates for countries X, Y and Z?", then that's easily findable.

What's the wait time for appts?

Again, this is too broad. What kind of appointments? Urgent care? Specialists? General practice? Checkups? If you answered those questions (along with which countries) for yourself, then sure, you could find the answers relatively easily.

What's the cure rate for major diseases?

Which diseases? A lot of "major diseases" don't have cures, just treatments. So, what outcomes specifically are you looking for?

What countries do you need additional health coverage (out of pocket) in?

You'd have to specify what you mean by "need". The point of universal healthcare is that you don't "need" anything else. In some countries, you can get private insurance, and that might help in certain ways.

So, yes, there are a lot of graphs out there on the general topic of universal healthcare systems. To find ones (or info) for your questions, you'd need to provide more info.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No, you weren't. I showed you multiple times that you asked about "countries" and general topics, not personal experiences in one country. I quoted your post more than once. It's weird that you keep claiming this, despite it being proven false so many times.

Not really. You provided yourself the further info you needed to find the info you wanted. You didn't provide me that extra info. You provided very broad, vague questions. So, yes, obviously when you used more details to find more specific info you wanted, that was doable. And obviously I can't do that until you provide me the same info you provided yourself.
I didn't provide myself any more info than you have had.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I most certainly did.
Sorry, I already pointed out specifically why you'd need to provide more information to get any kind of real answers. For example:

"Wait times in countries with universal healthcare" gets you:

Healthcare wait times vary significantly across countries with universal healthcare, and some critics say universal healthcare can increase wait times. Here are some examples of wait times in countries with universal healthcare:
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    Australia
    In 2020, 54% of Australians waited less than four weeks for a specialist, and 72% waited less than four months for non-emergency surgery. However, Australia's medical specialists make up only 25% of all clinicians, which can result in longer wait times.
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    Canada
    In 2020, Canada had the lowest percentage of patients who waited four weeks or less to see a specialist (38%), and the lowest percentage of patients who waited four months or less for elective surgery (62%). In some provinces, patients may wait up to 10 weeks to see a specialist.
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    Japan
    Japan has some of the lowest surgery waiting times in the world, and its universal healthcare is relatively inexpensive. Citizens pay 30% of their total medical bills, and the country has the third highest satisfaction levels with healthcare.

Links after that all give answer similar and pointing out the different kinds of care that have different wait times. So, the point still remains that your question is too broad to give a simple, accurate answer. If you really want answers to such broad questions, then you're right to go find them yourself. Asking someone on a thread like this while not supplying any necessary detail isn't going to work out well.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Sorry, I already pointed out specifically why you'd need to provide more information to get any kind of real answers. For example:

"Wait times in countries with universal healthcare" gets you:



Links after that all give answer similar and pointing out the different kinds of care that have different wait times. So, the point still remains that your question is too broad to give a simple, accurate answer. If you really want answers to such broad questions, then you're right to go find them yourself. Asking someone on a thread like this while not supplying any necessary detail isn't going to work out well.
I found the answers to my questions. I guess you can too but please don't post them because I specifically asked one person, who was not you and who did not answer my specific questions. Well, they did answer one. But I asked them numerous questions.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I found the answers to my questions.
Right, by supplying yourself with extra info. As I just showed, the answers to your questions are available, but they all depend on more specific info.
I guess you can too but please don't post them because I specifically asked one person,
who was not you and who did not answer my specific questions. Well, they did answer one. But I asked them numerous questions.
The questions you asked were very broad and don't have simple answers. I'm not surprised she didn't answer. I'm not sure what your point is here. They aren't "gotcha questions", so why do you care if someone else answers them?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Right, by supplying yourself with extra info. As I just showed, the answers to your questions are available, but they all depend on more specific info.


The questions you asked were very broad and don't have simple answers. I'm not surprised she didn't answer. I'm not sure what your point is here. They aren't "gotcha questions", so why do you care if someone else answers them?
LOL I don't much care but I'm just responding to your posts.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
It doesn't matter who decided this.

It does matter if you want to assign blame / responsibility, like you are doing.

Hillary's email explain the reason why they decided this.

No. She shares an opinion. At best, she shares an opinion for why France participated.
Not why it was decided. The members of the security council didn't vote for said resolution so that France could blablabla.

Can I have my question answered on Hillary's email?

It is irrelevant.

Is there the fifth amendment in Belgium too...right? ;)
Even less relevant.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
This thread is about the NATO. It's you guys who keep bringing up Russia. Not me.

It's useless you guys do that. Russia is a saint compared to the NATO.
You keep claiming it is about NATO, but you bring up Libya, which is not about NATO but about UN mandated interventions to implement a security council resolution. :shrug:

Just because NATO led the operation to carry it out with UN mandate, doesn't make it a NATO operation.
Most countries that voted for the resolutions weren't even members of NATO.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It does matter if you want to assign blame / responsibility, like you are doing.



No. She shares an opinion. At best, she shares an opinion for why France participated.
Not why it was decided. The members of the security council didn't vote for said resolution so that France could blablabla.



It is irrelevant.


Even less relevant.
This sort of attitude, that is, not answering straight questions will cause the downfall of this rotten EU:
we are not in the era of Juncker and Verhofstadt any more.

The old EU will be dismantled piece by piece.
And in France Rothschild Junior will not be able to govern.

;)
Some people say that the NATO is the armed force of the EU.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You keep claiming it is about NATO, but you bring up Libya, which is not about NATO but about UN mandated interventions to implement a security council resolution. :shrug:

Just because NATO led the operation to carry it out with UN mandate, doesn't make it a NATO operation.
Most countries that voted for the resolutions weren't even members of NATO.
One question: if you witnessed something and the court calls you to testify, what will you answer the prosecutor?
"I am sorry, this is irrelevant, so I won't answer"?
;)
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
This sort of attitude, that is, not answering straight questions will cause the downfall of this rotten EU:
we are not in the era of Juncker and Verhofstadt any more.

The old EU will be dismantled piece by piece.
And in France Rothschild Junior will not be able to govern.

;)
Some people say that the NATO is the armed force of the EU.
Once again you turn to nonsense that has nothing to do with the point at hand.
Anything to not acknowledge your mistakes.

I can only repeat myself.
Libya, Kosovo = UN security council resolution implementations. Not NATO solo projects of aggression like you keep claiming.

Your "questions" are utterly irrelevant to this.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
One question: if you witnessed something and the court calls you to testify, what will you answer the prosecutor?
"I am sorry, this is irrelevant, so I won't answer"?
;)
If the question were irrelevant to the case, I wouldn't have to answer as the lawyers would object to the questions based on them being irrelevant and the judge would agree.


What Hillary did or didn't say in whatever email is irrelevant to NATO leading a UN mandated operation to implement a Security Council resolution.
What amendments Belgium does or doesn't have is irrelevant to NATO leading a UN mandated operation to implement a Security Council resolution.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If the question were irrelevant to the case, I wouldn't have to answer as the lawyers would object to the questions based on them being irrelevant and the judge would agree.


What Hillary did or didn't say in whatever email is irrelevant to NATO leading a UN mandated operation to implement a Security Council resolution.
What amendments Belgium does or doesn't have is irrelevant to NATO leading a UN mandated operation to implement a Security Council resolution.
What is relevant is that I don't think that the headquarters of the NATO should be in Brussels.
I don't think that there is a valid reason why they should be there.
;)
How about that?
Irrelevant too?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
What is relevant is that I don't think that the headquarters of the NATO should be in Brussels.

How is that relevant in any way?
The headquarters are going to be in some place.

None of that affects the work of the UN and the voting of UN Security Council resolutions.
Whether it's in Brussels, Rome, New York, the moon, the bottom of the sea.

I don't think that there is a valid reason why they should be there.

Your opinion is noted. I don't see how it matters to anything. Especially not to UN Security Council resolutions.

;)
How about that?
Irrelevant too?
Yes. Very much so.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How is that relevant in any way?
The headquarters are going to be in some place.
None of that affects the work of the UN and the voting of UN Security Council resolutions.
Whether it's in Brussels, Rome, New York, the moon, the bottom of the sea.



Your opinion is noted. I don't see how it matters to anything. Especially not to UN Security Council resolutions.


Yes. Very much so.
Enlighten me, then.
Talk to me about something involving the NATO which you think it's relevant.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Enlighten me, then.
Talk to me about something involving the NATO which you think it's relevant.
Why? I didn't make any false claims about NATO and Libya / Kosovo. That's what you did.
I merely corrected you. You then, instead of acknowledging you were wrong, started yapping about NATO having headquarters in Brussels and your obsession with "hillary mails". :shrug:


Whenever you are ready to actually acknowledge your false insinuations concerning Libya and Kosovo...................................

I'm guessing it will not be forthcoming. Instead, you'll just continue trying to distract with more irrelevant yapping.
 
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