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What Is the Purpose of Sex Offender Registries?

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No, I mean I worked with detectives and prosecutors. The victim is typically the prosecuting witness. A witness who prosecutes isn't the prosecutor in the sense of what a prosecutor typically means.
I'm well acquainted with prosecutors and their job.

Was the person who molested you convicted of a prior sex offense?
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
I'm well acquainted with prosecutors and their job.

Was the person who molested you convicted of a prior sex offense?
My girlfriend said she only dates sex offenders. She asked me why I don't have to register.
I said, "You got me all wrong. I don't register, because I am not a sex offender."
So there is a good reason why there are sex offender registries. Because if there weren't, my girlfriend would not know who to date.
And no, the man who molested me and later raped me had no prior convictions. If there were no sex offender registries, I would have never been able to prove that I am not a schizophrenic and that I really have PTSD from something that really happened. I was discredited my whole life and never been accepted into the work force because I was believed to be schizophrenic and homosexual for believing a "delusion" that I was molested. When the man finally got registered, my life changed for the better. Everyone now knows that I am not really delusional for what I claimed and it is really easy to find a consenting woman no matter how many people believe that a man is gay. Hell, crack whores will have sex for a $10 bill. Right, the worst sex offense I ever committed is hiring prostitutes. Sex offender registries are necessary, at least in my case.
 

Perditus

へびつかい座
As I said, many of the people who are on sex offender registries haven't committed the worst of crimes.
The people who are on these lists are on it for a reason. Sexual crimes are and should be taken very seriously.

Everyone who is on these lists is placed on it after a comprehensive review of the facts surrounding their individual cases. The government recognizes the seriousness of placement on such a list.

They don't do it flippantly.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
So, you can present no evidence that sex offender registries are effective in reducing recidivism, or that the studies showing sex offender registries are associated with increased recidivism are erroneous?

Frankly I am not worried about the criminal, The registries are to protect the victims past and future. Even if they protect one person they did there job no matter the cost. Based on your number's even with the registries.

For every 100 offenders released there will be 25 new victims
For every 1000 offenders released there will be 250 new victims.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And no, the man who molested me and later raped me had no prior convictions.
So sex offender registration would not have prevented or did not prevent the crime against you.

If there were no sex offender registries, I would have never been able to prove that I am not a schizophrenic and that I really have PTSD from something that really happened.
Utter nonsense. Sex offender registries do not provide proof of anyone's guilt of a crime, nor proof that a victim has one type of mental disorder rather than another.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The people who are on these lists are on it for a reason. Sexual crimes are and should be taken very seriously.
Then why do you advocate for a measure that the evidence does not show to be effective in reducing recidivism, and has even been shown to be associated with increase recidivism?

Everyone who is on these lists is placed on it after a comprehensive review of the facts surrounding their individual cases. The government recognizes the seriousness of placement on such a list.

They don't do it flippantly.
You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. The Adam Walsh Act eliminates any sort of individual risk assessment.
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
So sex offender registration would not have prevented or did not prevent the crime against you.

Utter nonsense. Sex offender registries do not provide proof of anyone's guilt of a crime, nor proof that a victim has one type of mental disorder rather than another.
In most cases, you are probably right. In my case, just type the names Melissa Frances, Clarence Wilkinson, Chris Brown and my name, the most protected name of all, since I was the victim, Brian Schuh into a google search. Right. type those names into your internet search engine. It was a very high profile case. I even sold my life story rights to a hollywood movie company. who falsely portrayed me as a homosexual and insane. I was ripped off in a big way by a company called Crystal Pictures. Once one has been slandered by holly wood, the damage is done. Now go ahead, type those names into your internet search engine and then see if you can possibly repeat the nonsense you just said.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So sex offender registration would not have prevented or did not prevent the crime against you.

Sex offender registries do not provide proof of anyone's guilt of a crime, nor proof that a victim has one type of mental disorder rather than another.

In most cases, you are probably right.
Both of my sentences are true without exception.
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
I was told by the leading expert on sex offenders in my county that there are three laws that protect me. Megan's Law, Roberta's Law and Brian's Law. Megan and Roberta were girls raped by their fathers. Brian's Law is not very well known and it is not enforced. It is still on the Supreme Court desk waiting to be heard for it is in clear contradiction to Megan's and Roberta's laws. When I learned this, I immediately asked with much fear, "This Brian wasn't me was it?" I was terrified that maybe a law was made for my case. I was reassured that it is a coincidence. Brian's Law was a different Brian than me. I know more about what these laws mean than most, because I had to know. I was told I could push my offender to the federal registry. But I said no, because of ex post facto. there was no federal registry at the time Clarence Wilkinson was convicted. And I took an oath when I was 18 to uphold and defend the Constitution. I was asked, why do you care about your sex offender's rights? I said I don't, but I still have to defend the Constitution.
 

Perditus

へびつかい座
Then why do you advocate for a measure that the evidence does not show to be effective in reducing recidivism, and has even been shown to be associated with increase recidivism?

You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. The Adam Walsh Act eliminates any sort of individual risk assessment.
I worked for a state government. I'm very familiar with the procedure and the results.
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
I worked for a state government. I'm very familiar with the procedure and the results.
I absolutely agree that most sex offenders are not repeat offenders. Nevertheless, sex offender registries in my case, absolutely vindicated me against a pillar of the community who no one ever would have believed liked to molest and rape boys. Anyway, who was I? just a brat? No one believed me. I left my home town of Franklin, OH and never went back. When he was finally registered, I posted his registration on Facebook after I befriended every friend I had from my hometown who none of whom I have seen in over 20 years. I said, "See? I told you so."
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
And you still know of no evidence by which to conclude that sex offender registries are effective in reducing recidivism. Right?

You are reading what I am writing. I care only for the victim. If its was a 1% rate I would still support the registry. The registry for me is not about reducing recidivism, its about protecting the victims.
 

Perditus

へびつかい座
@Brian Schuh,

It's absolutely true that the most unexpected people turn out to be sexual offenders. I worked alongside a pedophile for 20 years and didn't know it until he fondled an 11-year-old girl who told her parents.

He is serving life now.

He was a model employee.
 

McBell

Unbound
The people who are on these lists are on it for a reason. Sexual crimes are and should be taken very seriously.

Everyone who is on these lists is placed on it after a comprehensive review of the facts surrounding their individual cases. The government recognizes the seriousness of placement on such a list.

They don't do it flippantly.
This is nothing more than wishful thinking.
 

McBell

Unbound
Nevertheless, sex offender registries in my case, absolutely vindicated me against a pillar of the community who no one ever would have believed liked to molest and rape boys.
you keep repeating this but have not shown it to be true.

It was not the sex offender list that "vindicated" you.
It was your molesters confession.

I do find it interesting that you declined to push your molester into a federal list, but then refuse to to give him the credit for your vindication.
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
you keep repeating this but have not shown it to be true.

It was not the sex offender list that "vindicated" you.
It was your molesters confession.

I do find it interesting that you declined to push your molester into a federal list, but then refuse to to give him the credit for your vindication.
His confession was in a private court hearing, for my "privacy." Yet the ignorant people of my hometown believed him to have been falsely convicted. It took a sex offender registration for these backwards redneck hillbillies in my small hometown to realize that indeed, he was a child molester.

If you find it interesting that I refused to push him to a federal list against his ex post facto rights, then also find it interesting that I refused to press charges for him raping me when I had turned 18, after he hadn't touched me since I was 14. For I believed that no man should put himself in a position to be raped. I am sure there are yet further facts in the case you would find "interesting."
 
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