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What Is This Political Position?

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Clarifying will help

For example I am against abortion, but believe the government should have no say in the matter.
I am Ok with gay marriage but believe the government should not force religions to comply.
I am against feminism as it is today but agree there was and is a need of sorts.
Government will intervene.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Government will provide, um, 'incentives'.

Uh, taxes? Like any other socialist system?

Come to Europe, you'll soon figure it out lol.

Also this country is probably not a democracy. It's some kind of authoritarian. Right now I'm thinking some kind of 21st Century Monarch, or something like the system in Plato's Republic.
In America, the kinds of taxes, as well as their level, is important (at least to some)...the same can be said of "incentives..."

Because you prefer a more authoritarian form of government making the decisions and providing the alternatives, on that score you'd be either a leftwing (Commie) nutcase, or a rightwing (Fascist) nutcase. But your expressed positions and reasoning behind them put you more in the middle...
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
In America, the kinds of taxes, as well as their level, is important (at least to some)...the same can be said of "incentives..."

Because you prefer a more authoritarian form of government making the decisions and providing the alternatives, on that score you'd be either a leftwing (Commie) nutcase, or a rightwing (Fascist) nutcase. But your expressed positions and reasoning behind them put you more in the middle...
Hahaha!

Thank you for your help and evaluation :)
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
This does sound a bit like old school Stalinism. Although they support things like feminism and ally with so called "liberals" in other countries, they would see it as bourgeois corruption and strictly control their own population in that regard.

Well there's not enough information to go on in the thread so far. You would find many authoritarian societies and political parties agreeing with your views.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
I think a notable deviation from Stalinism is that I don't support State Atheism.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
I think this works better than the traditional view:

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Jumi

Well-Known Member
Alright. My suggestion is that you let your own political views grow from your moral or ethical views instead of the other way around. At least I wish I had thought that way when I was younger. :)
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Alright. My suggestion is that you let your own political views grow from your moral or ethical views instead of the other way around. At least I wish I had thought that way when I was younger. :)
What are you talking about? That is exactly what I am doing. My political views are ultimately all down to my personal ethics, morals, judgements, analysis etc. I look at humans and go 'I think they work best like this...'
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
@Rival ,

Your various stances don't seem cohesive to me. Can you explain the orientation you're using to tie all of these ideas together?
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
What are you talking about? That is exactly what I am doing. My political views are ultimately all down to my personal ethics, morals, judgements, analysis etc. I look at humans and go 'I think they work best like this...'
Oftentimes political positions don't make much long-term sense for a thinking person with personal ethics of their own. Perhaps you could go with self-identifying as an authoritarian socialist with modern traditional Christian family values instead of picking a party.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Oftentimes political positions don't make much long-term sense for a thinking person with personal ethics of their own. Perhaps you could go with self-identifying as an authoritarian socialist with modern traditional Christian family values instead of picking a party.
Oh! No, I'm not looking for a party. I was just interested to see where I would be placed by others into a party. There are no parties which support my views in toto. I was wondering most about a label.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
What is it that seems incoherent?

Earlier I edited a post - too late. So let me ask again (my bad), what is it specifically about "feminism" that you reject?

I guess maybe your collection is a bit reminiscent of conservative catholicism?
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I see, then you would probably be a Christian Democrat voter in Finland though their pro-EU, NATO and UN views might be a deal-breaker for you.
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Following a conversation between @Mindmaster and myself, I would like to know what this political position is called (I already know what I call it):

1. Support of free healthcare, free education, free university tuition, foodbanks, welfare etc.

2. Against abortion, gay marriage, feminism, etc.

What is this position called? What would be its party?

Also, when you give your answers I'd really appreciate knowing your country of origin, only because Europe and the U.S. especially seem to have very different political definitions.

Thanks for your time

:)
Sounds like pretty classic communism to me ; strong systems of welfare, social authoritarianism. No?
 
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