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What Is This Political Position?

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Equality is a myth.

Also Yorkshire folk are quite socially conservative, whilst voting for Labour because of NHS etc. I also spent 6 years of my life (12-18) in Lincolnshire.

Are you of Polish extraction, both the socialist tendency and the religious and gender orthodoxy fits quite well. As does your location.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Not necessarily..
but enlightenment does assume things are better.
Usually the enlightened are the minority.
at first at least.
historically progress has always moved towards libralism equality and freedom.
not withstanding a few backward steps
The forces of reaction are always well entrenched.
But this does not make them right.
Well, it depends on what one thinks is progress...

Abolishing he DP was not progress, in my opinion,
Nor was legalising all abortions, for any reason,
Or allowing women to fight on the front line,
Or trying to mix democracy with monarchy (just pick one)
Or letting in so many migrants that our children can no longer attend local primary schools...

'Progress' is different for you, I and John Smith.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Are you of Polish extraction, both the socialist tendency and the religious and gender orthodoxy fits quite well.
No. British (English, Scottish), French and Moroccan. The last is long 'diluted' though and I am primarily English and Scottish.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Equality is a myth.

No it isn't; it's alive and kicking in this little land.
OK, it is true that fat-cat males earn more (on average) then fat-cat females, but since I think that the whole bunch are earning too much, and getting huge bonuses, etc, I couldn't give a fig for any of 'em.


But if I should walk into our local cafe and call out 'Equality is a myth' I would soon be leaving with a dreadful pain in my soft dangly bits ..... women around here are very feminine and at the same time 'as tough as might be required'. :p

Also Yorkshire folk are quite socially conservative, whilst voting for Labour because of NHS etc. I also spent 6 years of my life (12-18) in Lincolnshire.
I do accept that Yorks and Lincs do have communities that are small-c conservative, and some smaller town high streets still look like they did back in the 50's. I only know of one such town down here (Tenterden) which is like that.... I do love to walk its high street, with shops that remind me of 60 years ago. But that mix of policies in the OP is most strange (to me).
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
It's funny and quite sad how my very ethnicity is always questioned when my beliefs come up. As if I can't possibly be an ethnic Brit.
 
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Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
No it isn't; it's alive and kicking in this little land.
OK, it is true that fat-cat males earn more (on average) then fat-cat females, but since I think that the whole bunch are earning too much, and getting huge bonuses, etc, I couldn't give a fig for any of 'em.


But if I should walk into our local cafe and call out 'Equality is a myth' I would soon be leaving with a dreadful pain in my soft dangly bits ..... women around here are very feminine and at the same time 'as tough as might be required'. :p
Yes but evolution does not support equality. The weak die, the strong live. Also I'm talking mainly on a biological level.
 
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Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
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Premium Member
Referring to the OP it is fiscally liberal but socially does not fit into current conservative or liberal circles, so it doesn't fit into a particular group on the whole. It might in a different time period such as about 200 years ago.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
No it isn't; it's alive and kicking in this little land.
OK, it is true that fat-cat males earn more (on average) then fat-cat females, but since I think that the whole bunch are earning too much, and getting huge bonuses, etc, I couldn't give a fig for any of 'em.


But if I should walk into our local cafe and call out 'Equality is a myth' I would soon be leaving with a dreadful pain in my soft dangly bits ..... women around here are very feminine and at the same time 'as tough as might be required'. :p


I do accept that Yorks and Lincs do have communities that are small-c conservative, and some smaller town high streets still look like they did back in the 50's. I only know of one such town down here (Tenterden) which is like that.... I do love to walk its high street, with shops that remind me of 60 years ago. But that mix of policies in the OP is most strange (to me).

I lived in st. Michaels Tenterden for 30 years I left in 1990. For up north. Tenterden had become pure comuter land.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yes but evolution does not support equality. The weak die, the strong live.Also I'm talking mainly on a biological level.
Ha ha.... :D
Nope! Evolution favours neither gender!
Evolution requires an equal playing field for both!

Our Equality act cannot ban breast cancer, nor prostate cancer, but it can set a more level living-field for our guys and gals now in in the future. And, of course, it insists upon much more support and protection for disabled folks, and all races, nationalities, ages, creeds, religions, colours and sexual orientations.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Ha ha.... :D
Nope! Evolution favours neither gender!
Evolution requires an equal playing field for both!

Our Equality act cannot ban breast cancer, nor prostate cancer, but it can set a more level living-field for our guys and gals now in in the future. And, of course, it insists upon much more support and protection for disabled folks, and all races, nationalities, ages, creeds, religions, colours and sexual orientations.
I'm not even specifically talking about gender here. I'm talking about, say, mentally slow people not being equal with normal people, or dwarves not being equal (put them in military combat?), or rape (sadly) being a legitimate evolutionary way for a man to reproduce, but a woman (out in the wild) cannot force herself upon a man in this fashion. Gays csannot reproduce, straights can, so gays are an evolutionary dead end, unfavoured. Schizophrenics are unequal because they cannot perceive reality, and so on and so on.

There is no equality in nature. Only on paper.

Society is about survival of the people and the culture.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I lived in st. Michaels Tenterden for 30 years I left in 1990. For up north. Tenterden had become pure comuter land.
Yes, I expect that only business execs and professionals can afford the props in the town.
It still looks like the 50's to me, and the people tend to be conservative, both around the town and the farmland surrounding.
Although I am not a conservative I do like the old-style shops etc ...... I hope towns like that are preserved for the future.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Well, it depends on what one thinks is progress...

Abolishing he DP was not progress, in my opinion,
Nor was legalising all abortions, for any reason,
Or allowing women to fight on the front line,
Or trying to mix democracy with monarchy (just pick one)
Or letting in so many migrants that our children can no longer attend local primary schools...

'Progress' is different for you, I and John Smith.

Not all progress runs at the same rate, gender related progress has perhaps been moving rather fast for the religious orthodox, but as always they will catch up.

as for a democratic monachy, it is a well established system that works very well in practice.
Though not as strange as the old Irish kings which were always elected as absolute monarchs.

However I would never exchange our Sysyem with the American presedential one.
Which runs the administratin but is thwarted at every turn by the elected houses. And can contemplate candidates like Trump.
 
Following a conversation between @Mindmaster and myself, I would like to know what this political position is called (I already know what I call it):

1. Support of free healthcare, free education, free university tuition, foodbanks, welfare etc.

2. Against abortion, gay marriage, feminism, etc.

What is this position called? What would be its party?

Also, when you give your answers I'd really appreciate knowing your country of origin, only because Europe and the U.S. especially seem to have very different political definitions.

Thanks for your time

:)

It's pretty much a classical Christian Democrat position.

Socially conservative, but with centre-left economic ideals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy

*edit* noticed @Jumi already said this
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Yes, I expect that only business execs and professionals can afford the props in the town.
It still looks like the 50's to me, and the people tend to be conservative, both around the town and the farmland surrounding.
Although I am not a conservative I do like the old-style shops etc ...... I hope towns like that are preserved for the future.

Tenterden was once a Liberal town and borough. Until the 70's it had an independant council. Since then it has been staunchly blue. For my sins and for many years I was the local Liberal chairman and we never achieved more than 30% of the vote. Which included many local professionals. But the forelock pulling locals and squires were in the majority.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm not even specifically talking about gender here. I'm talking about, say, mentally slow people not being equal with normal people, or dwarves not being equal (put them in military combat?), or rape (sadly) being a legitimate evolutionary way for a man to reproduce, but a woman (out in the wild) cannot force herself upon a man in this fashion. Gays csannot reproduce, straights can, so gays are an evolutionary dead end, unfavoured. Schizophrenics are unequal because they cannot perceive reality, and so on and so on.

There is no equality in nature. Only on paper.

Society is about survival of the people and the culture.

Mentally slow people are disabled. Big Ron is slow of mind but he's 6'2" and built like a bull. He still digs out footings where diggers cannot reach or would have difficulty in manouvering. Now, compared to his enormous strength and bulk you and
I would probably be less able, and certainly unable to do his work.

Disability of one kind or another exists in all of us, but in most cases we have stengths and abilities which we can utlilise. Our Equality Act has done a great deal towards offering recognition to minorites, disabilities, gender imbalances and sexual orientations, and more, and to chuck a single section of it out because nature is ruthless would be crazy, imo.
 
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