What Is This Political Position?

[Rival]

Earlier I edited a post - too late. So let me ask again (my bad), what is it specifically about "feminism" that you reject?

I guess maybe your collection is a bit reminiscent of conservative catholicism?

I reject the idea that men and women are the same, that women can serve in the military and think the same etc. I support distinct gender roles.

I suppose so.

 

[Nietzsche]

Following a conversation between @Mindmaster and myself, I would like to know what this political position is called (I already know what I call it):

1. Support of free healthcare, free education, free university tuition, foodbanks, welfare etc.

2. Against abortion, gay marriage, feminism, etc.

What is this position called? What would be its party?

Also, when you give your answers I'd really appreciate knowing your country of origin, only because Europe and the U.S. especially seem to have very different political definitions.

Thanks for your time

I don't think you want my answer.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Politically socialist but probably from an extreme christian background.
Any number of which can be found in a church of england general synod. Though slightly outnumbered by liberal christians.
your 1 and 2 are an uncomfortable mix, except perhaps in northern Ireland where 2 is a fairly universal position.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I reject the idea that men and women are the same, that women can serve in the military and think the same etc. I support distinct gender roles.

I suppose so.

Your problem is one of date.
in the early 20th century all socialist would have agreed with you.
However almost everywher has moved on to more enlightened positions, including a majority of socialists.

 

[Rival]

Your problem is one of date.
in the early 20th century all socialist would have agreed with you.
However almost everywher has moved on to more enlightened positions, including a majority of socialists.

So the more people agree with something at a given time, the more right it is? Nope.

 

[oldbadger]

Following a conversation between @Mindmaster and myself, I would like to know what this political position is called (I already know what I call it):

1. Support of free healthcare, free education, free university tuition, foodbanks, welfare etc.

2. Against abortion, gay marriage, feminism, etc.

What is this position called? What would be its party?

Also, when you give your answers I'd really appreciate knowing your country of origin, only because Europe and the U.S. especially seem to have very different political definitions.

Thanks for your time

Political Schizophrenia..........
Ummm....... Polyschiz?

All in section 1. are great.
All in 2. are dreadful.

 

[Rival]

I love the way it's socially acceptable to be a socialist but not to be a social conservative...

Either way, I guess this position still doesn't have a name except maybe Fascism or Socialist Authoritarian.

Thanks you guys for chipping in anyways.

 

[oldbadger]

I love the way it's socially acceptable to be a socialist but not to be a social conservative...

Wot?
I'm in Kent, England.
There's larege areas here where big-S socialism is not the norm, so your paragraph above rather deepends on where you are living.

Either way, I guess this position still doesn't have a name except maybe Fascism or Socialist Authoritarian.

A significant majority of women here are not big-F Feminist, they don't need to be, because our Equality Act 2010 is chiselling away at the bigotry and prejudice, but if anybody came here and started to tell them what they could or could not do then they'd make the average ardent feminist look like they was playin' at it!

 

[Desert Snake]

Sounds like pretty classic communism to me ; strong systems of welfare, social authoritarianism. No?

Why wouldn't it be classic fascism?
Anyways, the religious derived stuff is more reminiscent of state religion places, not traditional 'communist' places.
For some context, 'religious laws' were practiced in Czarist Russia, so that would parallel more likely with the op's statements, imo.

 

[Rival]

Why wouldn't it be classic fascism?
Anyways, the religious derived stuff is more reminiscent of state religion places, not traditional 'communist' places.
For some context, 'religious laws' were practiced in Czarist Russia, so that would parallel more likely with the op's statements, imo.

My social conservatism is not of my religion. Even if I were atheist I would be conservative and justify it via evolution.

 

[Rival]

Wot?
I'm in Kent, England.
There's larege areas here where big-S socialism is not the norm, so your paragraph above rather deepends on where you are living

Yorkshire.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Following a conversation between @Mindmaster and myself, I would like to know what this political position is called (I already know what I call it):

1. Support of free healthcare, free education, free university tuition, foodbanks, welfare etc.

2. Against abortion, gay marriage, feminism, etc.

What is this position called? What would be its party?

Also, when you give your answers I'd really appreciate knowing your country of origin, only because Europe and the U.S. especially seem to have very different political definitions.

Thanks for your time

Confused af

 

[Jumi]

This might be right up your alley? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy

 

[Rival]

This might be right up your alley? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy

Nah.

 

[Politesse]

Why wouldn't it be classic fascism?
Anyways, the religious derived stuff is more reminiscent of state religion places, not traditional 'communist' places.
For some context, 'religious laws' were practiced in Czarist Russia, so that would parallel more likely with the op's statements, imo.

Fascism essentially is the worship of the state and rejection of democratic rule; I am not seeing that in rival's description.

 

[Rival]

I am actually really surprised no one else holds these views and most folk think they are confused. Most everyone in my family on both sides hold these views. Environment?

 

[Desert Snake]

My social conservatism is not of my religion. Even if I were atheist I would be conservative and justify it via evolution.

Hence fascism, as well

Fascism essentially is the worship of the state and rejection of democratic rule; I am not seeing that in rival's description.

Where was the 'democracy' part?

 

[oldbadger]

Yorkshire.

Yorkshire? !!!
I can't think that Yorkshire gals would put up with much in section 2 either. I mean, that's mostly just control-freaky impolitic badness; and anywhere in England to contravene the Equality Act would simply be a breach of law and human rights.

 

[Rival]

Yorkshire? !!!
I can't think that Yorkshire gals would put up with much in section 2 either. I mean, that's mostly just control-freaky impolitic badness; and anywhere in England to contravene the Equality Act would simply be a breach of law and human rights.

Equality is a myth.

Also Yorkshire folk are quite socially conservative, whilst voting for Labour because of NHS etc. I also spent 6 years of my life (12-18) in Lincolnshire.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

So the more people agree with something at a given time, the more right it is? Nope.

Not necessarily..
but enlightenment does assume things are better.
Usually the enlightened are the minority.
at first at least.
historically progress has always moved towards libralism equality and freedom.
not withstanding a few backward steps
The forces of reaction are always well entrenched.
But this does not make them right.