You can accept reality of evolution, and the explanations found in the Theory of Evolution, without subscribing to such 19th Century barbarisms as social Darwinism.
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What is wrong with believing in evolution?
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You can accept reality of evolution, and the explanations found in the Theory of Evolution, without subscribing to such 19th Century barbarisms as social Darwinism.
The idea that it is something to be "believed in".
Such is no more the case than, for instance, "believing in" electromagnetism.
Err...Who is teaching 'social Darwinism'?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Nothing, as it's the logical, honest conclusion upon examining the evidence.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But theism and evolution aren't mutually exclusive, nor are literal interpretations of creation myths a prerequisite for believing in a god.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Why wouldn't god allow for a little chance and chaos in the universe?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Evolution and abiogenesis are two different things.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
"Social Darwinism" has absolutely nothing to do with biological evolution, and I recall that we're corrected you on this before on more than one occasion.
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
Evolution without a transcendental Soul results in eugenics.
Belief in a Soul whilst refuting evolution is partially lacking in observation, but harmless.
Evolution with a Soul is best.
[]humans are complicated beasts. You believe comforting lies while knowing full well the painful truths that make those lies necessary. It's a wonder you can survive at all. (A Monster Calls)
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
There are quite a lot of religious people who know evolution is true. There's no conflict between evolution and religion. Only belief and interpretations of religious books create the conflict.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
That's belief in a book rather than God. If you take the holy books and the stories away from God, then only God is left and there's no conflict between evolution and creation. God has the right to do whatever he/she/it wants and create the world whichever he/she/it wants. It's not up to an old book to tell us what God can do. The conflict between religion and evolution is artificially created by humans.
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Nope
Clearly Quran is against evolution
And those who u call religious at least Muslims ones have no knowledge about their religion.
How do you account for Muslims who accept evolution, like Usama Hasan, TO Shanavas, Jamal al-Din al-Afghani, Khalid Anees, Edip Yuksel...?
And, for that matter, 79% of the Muslim population of Kazakhstan, 30% of the Muslim population of Pakistan, 78% of the Muslim population of Lebanon, 67% in Palestine, 52% in Jordan, 62% in Albania, 37% in Tajikistan etc.
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وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ مِن صَلْصَالٍ مِّنْ حَمَإٍ مَّسْنُونٍ
And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud. (26)
Brian Schuh
Well-Known Member
I remember when the theory of a biochemical basis for mental illness was commonly believed to be a fact. I didn't believe then nor now in any such thing as a biochemical imbalance. I was considered ignorant and in denial. Then over the years evidence accumulated that psychiatric drugs don't treat biochemical imbalances but have been proved to cause biochemical imbalances.
Same with the theory of evolution. If one doesn't accept the latest fad theory, they must be "ignorant" or a religious fanatic.
The Torah doesn't change over thousands of years, it is eternal. (Although our understanding of it evolves.) whereas scientific theories have been known to be scrapped with just one new fact or experiment.
Same with the theory of evolution. If one doesn't accept the latest fad theory, they must be "ignorant" or a religious fanatic.
The Torah doesn't change over thousands of years, it is eternal. (Although our understanding of it evolves.) whereas scientific theories have been known to be scrapped with just one new fact or experiment.
This is largely in line with theories of the emergence of life (which developed into humanity, ultimately) out of the agglomeration of RNA and lipid using clay as a substrate.
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We have lots of traditions that say God created Adam in this shape and then made it alive. All suddenly not gradually.
Besides those who believe in evolution they don't believe in a designer
Ouroboros
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That is a book. It's the belief in a book that creates the conflict.
There are Muslims who believe evolution to be true. It's all about how you interpret the book.
None at all? How do they know they're Muslims if they have no knowledge of their own religion? It's like saying that I'm a believer in plyxomorphia, but I have no clue what it is. They must have some form of knowledge, and if they're against evolution, it's because they've been told that the Quran says so, just like you did above.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Evolution is like an algorithm to produce variation. Today, software engineers use similar methods to create variation in computer games. They're designers, but of a different kind. Smart designers, you could call them, instead of old fashioned hands-on carving-out-of-wood designers.