What is wrong with calling Islam religion of peace?

[LuisDantas]

How is that disrespectful?

LMGTFY

If you truly don't know, then maybe I won't have the means to make you understand.

 

[jah59]

While there are certainly many, easily a majority I believe of peace-loving Muslims, the Islamic religion does face a crisis. The problem seems to stem from the Quran with its many passages that seem to promote violence. I say this not because I believe the Quran has passages which promote violence, but because polls among Muslims show clearly that large numbers, hundreds of millions of Muslims believe that the Quran teaches them to do such violent things. See https://plus.google.com/u/0/111513158382522036301/posts/2mNBJZ8WUth for the verses and how many Muslims view these passages.

 

[IndigoStorm]

Salm and Salam are the root words for the “Islam” which mean peace and tranquility. The importance of peace and tranquility has been pointed to in the Quran numerous times.

The Quran says: “But if the enemy shows a tendency to peace, do thou (also) show a tendency to peace…”

What is wrong with calling Islam religion of peace?

Based purely on what has taken place in the past I doubt there is any religion of peace.

In Islam, Judaism, Christianity you name it, there have been and are many instances where people have killed and people have died in the name of "religion."

I'm no expert on Islam or Judaism but considering the many, many thousands of humans killed by the Christian god Yahweh religion does not = peace.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So your premise is that Muslims are a violent people, but it isn't their fault?

When is it ever?

 

[Sakeenah]

It amazes me when Muslims like to claim that the Meccans were intolerant monsters even though they put up with Muhammad deriding and slandering the Meccans and their forefathers beliefs' for ten years. What amazes me even more is Muslims complaining about these events when to this very day Muslims use this exact same excuse for persecuting & acting like ******** to ex-Muslims & any others who challenge or even mock aspects of Islam and display the exact sort of intolerance they claimed the Meccans once displayed to Muhammad. In fact it's now glaringly obvious you can be murdered in non-Muslim countries for doing this too!

This isn't something only muslim historians are saying but also non muslim historians, Karen Amstrong being one of them.
I'm not complaining I'm simply clearing up some misconceptions. The prophet muhammad shared his message and challenged the pagan beliefs but he did not insult or slander.Slandering goes against his teachings.

“And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge.” (Al-Qur’an 6:108).


Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "A true believer is not involved in taunting, frequently cursing (others), in indecency,or in abusing."

There are 1.6 bilion Muslims, majority of us are tolerant and peaceful and do not agree with the presecution of those who disagree with our beliefs.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

This isn't something only muslim historians are saying but also non muslim historians, Karen Amstrong being one of them.

And she's relying on Muslims sources while doing it.

I'm not complaining I'm simply clearing up some misconceptions.

Okay, fair point. Maybe 'complaining' wasn't the right term to use. 'Pointing out' sounds better and far less loaded.

The prophet muhammad shared his message and challenged the pagan beliefs but he did not insult or slander.Slandering goes against his teachings.

“And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge.” (Al-Qur’an 6:108).

He claimed their gods were false and that they prayed to statues & trees. Sounds like slander & mockery to me. If this notion about polytheists didn't start with Muhammad then at what point in Muslim history did it begin? This is the only logical outcome that can be drawn from an exclusive 'there is no god but...' theology. He also smashed the idols & cult objects in the Meccan temple. Does that sound like religious tolerance to you?

Indeed, @sovietchild seems to have no problem with this.

Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "A true believer is not involved in taunting, frequently cursing (others), in indecency,or in abusing."

There are 1.6 bilion Muslims, majority of us are tolerant and peaceful and do not agree with the presecution of those who disagree with our beliefs

And yet the majority of the world's Muslims live in countries where religious freedom is not practised; where polytheists aren't able to practice their faiths and where non-Muslims in general are dealt with harshly compared to Muslims - if they even exist in a country at all.

 

[BilliardsBall]

The interpretation of these verses in my opinion depends on how one chooses to understand the Quran. Islam is a Din or tradition - as such, an amalgamation of several closely related religions. It isn't a single religion.

As a westerner it might be hard to understand for you, but notice that Islam doesn't have a Pope; and has different sects such as Shia and Sunni that have different Hadith books. So islam is made of lots of religions. For example, The Ethiopian, Indian Sir Syedan deist and Shia Ismaili doesn't believe in the same Islamic history and laws as the orthodox Sunni or Hasan Ashari Shia etc

Islam is composed of sects. But if I want to start with original intentions and an overview of all of Islam (as the OP referred to, not sects) I begin with the Noble Qu'ran.

I've read much of the Qu'ran (in English, not Arabic). There is incessant warmongering and calls for the destruction of Jews and Christians specifically and infidels/non-Muslims in general. Modernist Muslims are moderates, those who adhere to Qu'ran fundamentally cannot be.

 

[Shad]

This isn't something only muslim historians are saying but also non muslim historians, Karen Amstrong being one of them.
I'm not complaining I'm simply clearing up some misconceptions. The prophet muhammad shared his message and challenged the pagan beliefs but he did not insult or slander.Slandering goes against his teachings.

Armstrong isn't a historian she is a writer. More so she is not even a major one in actually historian circles of the likes of Fred Donner.

The smashing of the idols is more than a simply insult The event is part of Islamic tradition itself.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What is wrong with telling others that those gods are useless? And, there is only one God?

Everything because you don't even know whether other peoples' gods exist or not. You've never even bothered to find out for yourself. You can't even prove Allah actually exists, much less that he is the only god and that he is the Creator of literally everything.

Yet another example of Islam giving out none of the respect & tolerance it demands for itself.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Are members of the KKK Christian extremists???

Yes.

Calling ISIS " Islamic Extremists " is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

It's recognising the problem for what it is, actually. Refusing to admit that Islamic State has genuine roots in Islam is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" because it allows us to look the other way while Muslims who don't actively support Islamic State display attitudes and beliefs sympathetic to their aims e.g. the desire to see a Muslim caliphate restored, death to LGBTs, death to apostates, non-Muslims enslaved, forced to pay the jizyah etc. It's a refusal to recognise that Islam is an intolerant, exclusivist religion and that in the majority of Muslim-majority countries the non-Muslim populations cannot practise their religions freely & safely.

 

[sovietchild]

Armstrong isn't a historian she is a writer. More so she is not even a major one in actually historian circles of the likes of Fred Donner.

The smashing of the idols is more than a simply insult The event is part of Islamic tradition itself.

What is wrong with smashing the idols?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Salm and Salam are the root words for the “Islam” which mean peace and tranquility. The importance of peace and tranquility has been pointed to in the Quran numerous times.

I thought that "Islam" meant "submission". I don't speak Arabic myself, but I've heard many Arabic speakers say this.

The Quran says: “But if the enemy shows a tendency to peace, do thou (also) show a tendency to peace…”

What is wrong with calling Islam religion of peace?

One thing that's wrong with it: while you're here in this thread calling Islam "a religion of peace", other Muslims are advocating violence in the name of Islam in another thread:

Conviction and punishment for adultery/fornication in Islam.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

There is no gods, but God.

As if you would know

Proselytising is against the rules.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What is wrong with smashing the idols?

Other people's idols? That's theft and vandalism.

Idols that you own yourself? Nothing - it's like drawing a picture of Muhammad that way. You are perfectly free to treat someone else's religion with disrespect.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What is wrong with smashing the idols?

The same thing that's wrong when somebody burns the Quran. It's desecration of a sacred object. But if you're okay with the former then you cannot complain when people want to do the latter.

Muslims demand tolerance & respect for their religion but one of the key acts in the founding of Islam was a display of gross religious intolerance against non-Muslims.

 

[sovietchild]

I thought that "Islam" meant "submission". I don't speak Arabic myself, but I've heard many Arabic speakers say this.


One thing that's wrong with it: while you're here in this thread calling Islam "a religion of peace", other Muslims are advocating violence in the name of Islam in another thread:

Conviction and punishment for adultery/fornication in Islam.

I thought he was explaining how they punish wrong doers. Saudi Arabia crime rate is really low after all.

 

[Notanumber]

This isn't something only muslim historians are saying but also non muslim historians, Karen Amstrong being one of them.
I'm not complaining I'm simply clearing up some misconceptions. The prophet muhammad shared his message and challenged the pagan beliefs but he did not insult or slander.Slandering goes against his teachings.

“And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge.” (Al-Qur’an 6:108).


Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "A true believer is not involved in taunting, frequently cursing (others), in indecency,or in abusing."

There are 1.6 bilion Muslims, majority of us are tolerant and peaceful and do not agree with the presecution of those who disagree with our beliefs.

This provides an explanation _ Myth: Muhammad was Tortured by the Meccans

 

[Shad]

What is wrong with smashing the idols?

Those idols were not your idols to smash.

I can destroy stuff you own? Send it to me via FedEx, they ring the bell.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I thought he was explaining how they punish wrong doers. Saudi Arabia crime rate is really low after all.

Correction: their re-offending rate is really low.

 

[sayak83]

What is wrong with smashing the idols?

What is wrong in raiding your house and burning your Quran?

Clearly Islam has failed to teach you the first thing about ethics of right and wrong.