FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And that is the reason for wars since the born of man, it was the quran to be blamed.
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What is wrong with Islam?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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And that is the reason for wars since the born of man, it was the quran to be blamed.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
You're entitled to your own opinion but it has nothing to do with truth.
gnostic
The Lost One
Is Muhammad a good man, when he was leader of armed raids to rob merchant caravans in 623 to 624? These raids were not against military targets, and Muhammad acted no better than a warlord or a pirate.
Is he a good man for sending assassins in 624?
Is he a good man, when he rejected the term fromthe city of Ta'if that surrender to him, after a siege in 630, where they could keep their pagan religion? This demonstrate the Qur'an "no compulsion" was nothing but a lie, because he had forced Islam upon Ta'if.
And last, but not least, is that I don't believe in his story of meeting Gabriel or him receiving the Qur'an from god.
You are saying that it is lies, but you don't seem to have attempted to explain how so.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes he was a very bad man, because you wanted him to be so, but he isn't and you're misled
and i feel pity towards you, but it's God's will and we can do nothing about it.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Which one, there are many lies, why i need to repeat many things which have been
already explained multiple of times.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
How is any of that propaganda? You claim such but make no attempt at explaining why. Most of the numbers were extrapolated from Pew Research polls conducted in Muslim countries. Granted, there was some quite liberal assumptions in there with regard to the populations of the countries listed at the end, but there is also footage of Muslims acting intolerantly and using their beliefs as justification. How many times do Muslims have to murder secularist bloggers before you'll stop believing this is 'propaganda'? How many Muslims have to call for the death of Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama, the Christian governor of Jakarta because he pointed out that Muslim religious leaders are citing the Quran as justification for Muslims voting against him before you accept that this isn't propaganda? How many Ahmadis must die before you accept that it's not a tiny minority of Muslims persecuting them?
An apocryphal tale designed merely to dazzle us with Muhammad's character doesn't cancel out his warlike actions or his tenacity at repressing the religious beliefs of the Arabian tribes. It doesn't counter the fact that he & his followers forced their beliefs on others at the point of a sword and have continued to do so after Muhammad died.
I acknowledge that there is indeed a fair lot of repetition.
Allow me to ask. Do you truly feel that we are entitled to our opinions even when they are based on what you call lies?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
How is any of that propaganda? You claim such but make no attempt at explaining why. Most of the numbers were extrapolated from Pew Research polls conducted in Muslim countries. Granted, there was some quite liberal assumptions in there with regard to the populations of the countries listed at the end, but there is also footage of Muslims acting intolerantly and using their beliefs as justification. How many times do Muslims have to murder secularist bloggers before you'll stop believing this is 'propaganda'? How many Muslims have to call for the death of Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama, the Christian governor of Jakarta because he pointed out that Muslim religious leaders are citing the Quran as justification for Muslims voting against him before you accept that this isn't propaganda? How many Ahmadis must die before you accept that it's not a tiny minority of Muslims persecuting them?
An apocryphal tale designed merely to dazzle us with Muhammad's character doesn't cancel out his warlike actions or his tenacity at repressing the religious beliefs of the Arabian tribes. It doesn't counter the fact that he & his followers forced their beliefs on others at the point of a sword and have continued to do so after Muhammad died.
You wanted it to be so, but it isn't.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
If you believe the lies then it's your choice.
You do not have the authority to simply decree that what we believe are lies just because it is confortable for you to believe so.
And in making the attempt you are being disrespectful, by the way.
It would be good for your reputation and credibility if you attempted to call lies only that which is actually untrue as opposed to unconfortable to you.
As an alternative, you could try to support your claims, or at least to explain why you call lies what has not been shown to be untruthful.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Believe it or not, some people also deny the holocaust.
As I said before “The term ‘tiny proportion’ is relative.”
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes some people denied the holocaust because of the propaganda,
the same thing with the propaganda against Islam.
If only.
I wish most Muslims would accept that most of the 'propaganda' against Islam comes from the way Muslims actually behave, the hadith and websites like this. At this point I feel fairly comfortable saying that most Muslims are deluded, in the full psychiatric meaning of the term.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes it's only the propaganda and nothing else, but you're part of it as some others,
this is a fact whether you accept it or not, otherwise why you have
interest to discuss religion, is it because you have a lot of time to waste.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And you're deluded as well, you think you're the wise one and you get it right, you aren't
different than the others, what you think is right doesn't mean it is.
And you tell me that I believe in lies...
I truly wish you valued your word a bit more than you do.
Notanumber
A Free Man
As they say a picture paints a thousand words so a video must paint a few thousand more.
You may not like the videos, but you can’t accuse them of lying.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Is Pat a liar as well?
If only he would get off the fence!
Edit:
What will happen when the welfare payments cease because there are more claimants than those who are paying into the system?
Things are bad enough now never mind when this happens.
The writing is on the wall for those who are not too blinkered to see it.
If only he would get off the fence!
Edit:
What will happen when the welfare payments cease because there are more claimants than those who are paying into the system?
Things are bad enough now never mind when this happens.
The writing is on the wall for those who are not too blinkered to see it.
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